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naznatips said:
Bodhesatva said:

Did the 15 games I've already mentioned not make the 200 dollar purchase worthwhile? I don't understand the problem here.

You are absolutely correct that the "core" titles of the PS3 that define the Playstation experience (as distinct from the Wii or 360 experience) don't really appeal to me: God of War, Heavenly Sword, RPGs, Assassin's Creed, and other "cinematic" games that have come to be the Playstation hallmark aren't for me. However, I've compiled a list that's plenty long, and if I did end up buying all 15 games I've mentioned thus far, my PS3 library would be larger than my Wii library by a sizable margin (I have 4 Wii games so far, although I expect to buy Smash Brothers and Wii Fit and Endless Ocean early next year).

All for less than a Wii, AND I get a Blu Ray player for my HD TV. Why am I getting criticized so much T_T


I'd forgotten you got it for $200. I suppose that makes sense. Out of off topic curiousity, what games do you have for the Wii?

Wii Play, Galaxy, Prime 3, and Zack and Wiki. My favorite is Wii Sports still (if that counts, it's 5), but Z&W and Prime are also very good. I liked but did not love Wii Play and Galaxy (no, I did not think Wii Play was crap). I'm very interested to see how FPS evolves on the Wii and its successors -- I think it's possible the Wii remote could end up being better than a mouse/keyboard. It isn't YET, but maybe on the Wii 2 or Wii 3? I think it's possible. Analog stick is much worse for aiming and turning, but it's better for lateral movements. If you can combine a 3d mouse with an analog stick for strafing, you might be able to achieve even better results. We'll see.

I am getting Trauma Center and Mercury Meltdown Revolution for Christmas, unless my girlfriend decided to completely ignore my wishes :p

 

 



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@ Bodhesatva )

you should look forward to Hot Shots Golf 5 aswell - that game is an awesome casual game and with online mode it will be really competetive



Oh, how could I forget to add Afrika to my coming soon list. Very excited about that.



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yea afrika looks intriguing , I wonder what the gameplay will be like

ah yea you will be able to play all kinds of clasical board games (chess, draughts , ..) and some nice casual arcade games in Home , so that application might be something to look forward to for you , although it isn't really a "game"



Lafiel said:
yea afrika looks intriguing , I wonder what the gameplay will be like

ah yea you will be able to play all kinds of clasical board games (chess, draughts , ..) and some nice casual arcade games in Home , so that application might be something to look forward to for you , although it isn't really a "game"

It's a game. There are really only a few qualities that define a game. They are as follows:

1) Is the item used for diversion or amusement?

2) Is it interactive?

If it meets those two criteria, then it's a game. Since Home is definitely intended to be amusing, and it's definitely interactive, it's a game.

Most of the things people associate with a "game," such as concrete goals and objectives, are things that video game players have forced on to the word. It isn't actually what the word means.

Which is why "non games" are in fact the most innovative games at all -- they're so innovative and fresh that people don't even understand that most of them are, in fact, games. It's time the word "game" actually was used by its real definition again, and not by the definition that video game players have decided to give it.  



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oh I c you you already had it in your list and judging by your response you value it pretty highly :) - guess I shouldn't try to answer posts without wearing my contacts :P

have you heard about Dark Mist ? it's a PSN game which is already released at the jpn psn and looks quite good - maybe that's something you could consider aswell

gameplay: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/128606.html



First off, I don't have a PS3. I may get one in the future, but when the time comes for second console, it might be tough to choose between the PS3 and 360.

I'd suggest Ninja Gaiden Sigma. I haven't played it, but I did play Ninja Gaiden on X Box. It was easily one of the best games last gen. Now I hear you keep saying you don't like "cinematic" games, but by that do you mean games like Ninja Gaiden? In other words, games with a more realistic look? As far as story, NG wasn't very heavy with the story. If you hate games with lots of story, but could manage the 20+ minute cutscenes in MGS, the little story snippets shouldn't bother you. NG is very acradey, which is why I really want the series back where it belongs on a Nintendo console.

About Kingdom Hearts, I didn't like it the first time I played it either(about 2 hours). But then again I didn't like SSBM the first time I played it. Both were among my favorites last gen. Not trying to force it on you, but there's been too much KH bashing in this thread to not put my two cents in.

Since you're taking PS2 recommendations I'll mention a few others. Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. You say you think games are a horrible medium for story telling, but I think you may feel differently when you play Ico. It has one of the best and most moving stories in any game I've ever played. The amazing thing is it does this with minimal cutscenes and very few words spoken. The game itself is much fun with it's simple, yet appropriate combat, and emphasis on solving environmental puzzles that actually make sense(rather than just finding keys/crests and the usual suspects).

You want a fun, "casual"(I loath that word)game? Katamari Damacy. It's fun, simple, and quirky.

Hot Shots Golf 3. Simple enough to pick up and play, but deep enough to sink your teeth into. Some people are put off by the crazy/cute characters with the enormous heads, but I'm man enough to dig it. :) Of course, you may just want to get the one for the PS3 when you get the chance.



"I feel like I could take on the whole Empire myself."

Okay, I'm sorry to get frustrated here, but I think people need to stop with the "once you play game X, then you'll agree that story games are good."

It's incredibly frustrating.  I don't like story-driven gaming. DO NOT WANT. 

This isn't just a passing fancy, or a weakly held belief. It's a conviction from years of experience; I absolutely, positively, strongly, passionately, powerfully hate story driven games. Can I say this more strongly? I think it's awful, terrible tripe, and I strongly hope that story-driven games die off, as multiplayer-focused games continue to surge in prominance.

I know these are strong words, but look at this from my view now. If anyone here asked for game recommendations -- with the specific caviat that they don't like shooters -- and then everyone responded with "well what about this shooter? You may like this one," or "I think this shooter here will change your mind," or "I doubt you've tried shooter Z, that's a game no one can hate," you'd get a little frustrated too.

Just accept that I think story driven games are inferior, and try to recommend things that seem like they'd appeal to me. This wasn't supposed to be a thread about me hating story driven gaming -- a fact that I've stated many times before without such controversy -- but about finding games that I can enjoy, and asking the community for help. Can we put this to rest now, or at least move the discussion to a different thread? I'd be HAPPY to discuss the issue. Very happy, in fact, because story driven gaming is one main reason why I've been so fervently hoping the Wii will win -- Nintendo has constantly resisted implementing heavy story in their games. LOVE to discuss the issue, but not here, please. 



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^ lol that was intentional , right ?



RolStoppable said:
How about Kingdom Hearts II, Bod?

 Thanks for the joke, Rol. I'm just so disappointed this thread turned out this way. I was hoping it could be a "hey, welcome to the club, glad to have you!" sort of thread, but instead many of the Playstation faithful seem a little irked by my dismissal of games like Kingdom Hearts, God of War, and Metal Gear (Story side -- again, the gameplay is awesome), while the Nintendo faithful seem to think my purchase was a terrible one to begin with.

It's just... ugh. Depressing, frustrating. 

I'm just not going to post in this thread again, I think. Thanks to those who gave me actual input, and thanks to Rol for the joke. <3 to everyone, regardless.  



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