NJ5 said: That video is hilarious. I was hoping someone would say that was fake, but no one didn't so I assume it's real?

 I made the video so I'll go ahead and tell you it's real. 

twesterm said: Bladeneo said: twesterm said: Bladeneo said: The whole "Its a button basher" theme pisses me off, the combat system is deeper than that, just takes a while to understand everything.     So youve shown one video of someone playing the game in that way and that means it should be? Congratulations. That guy is using about 2% of the combat in the game. Yeah, that's me playing and showing that you can get through the demo at least pressing only those two buttons and not looking at the screen. You never have to look at the screen. You never have to move the control sticks. You never have to defend. You never have to do combos. The game does everything for you. A game with deep combat mechanics doesn't let you do all that (or I guess not do all that) and be decent at the game.

 Youre missing the point, because youve easily exploited the combat system doesnt make it any less in depth. Games like final fantasy have tricks to allow you to level up easily, but it doesnt mean the levelling system is any less complex or deep because youve exploited it.

 HS CAN be played as button basher, but my original point was I felt annoyed at how many people saw it as that and nothing more, when in fact if you took the time to explore the combat system its a lot deeper than people realise.

Play on a bigger T.V

kazadoom said: dang, I did not know that everyone would be so snobby about it. I can tell in 20-30 min if I like a game because if I do, then it will pull me in by then. Just sharing my thoughts here, what the heck is up everyone's butt?

 The demo I played of Mario Galaxy in Gamestop was just a sharper looking Mario 64 with the camera pointed upside down, and the motion controls were horrible! Point and shoot "star bits!?!?", what kind of washed up load of crap is that! Man that game must be awful right? ^_^ (sarcasm all), if you want to judge Heavenly Sword by what you played on a demo thats fine :)

But I will say if Mario Galaxy demo is what I should be getting about the Wii's potential, well then I'm glad you found the environments impressive in Heavenly Sword because I didn't even find that in Galaxy. 

Anyway, the game probably isn't for everyone ^_^ I played it and finished it several times, it's got a great story, some of the greatest characters I've seen in a long time, a pretty deep combat system should you choose to learn it, and a decent amount of un-lockable's. Definitely worth my purchase in my opinion :) I'll be playing it numerous times in the future.

Bladeneo said: twesterm said: Bladeneo said: twesterm said: Bladeneo said: The whole "Its a button basher" theme pisses me off, the combat system is deeper than that, just takes a while to understand everything.     So youve shown one video of someone playing the game in that way and that means it should be? Congratulations. That guy is using about 2% of the combat in the game. Yeah, that's me playing and showing that you can get through the demo at least pressing only those two buttons and not looking at the screen. You never have to look at the screen. You never have to move the control sticks. You never have to defend. You never have to do combos. The game does everything for you. A game with deep combat mechanics doesn't let you do all that (or I guess not do all that) and be decent at the game. Youre missing the point, because youve easily exploited the combat system doesnt make it any less in depth. Games like final fantasy have tricks to allow you to level up easily, but it doesnt mean the levelling system is any less complex or deep because youve exploited it. HS CAN be played as button basher, but my original point was I felt annoyed at how many people saw it as that and nothing more, when in fact if you took the time to explore the combat system its a lot deeper than people realise.

No, you're missing the point. I could play the game and learn the deep system but why bother when I can randomly mash two buttons and let the game play for me? I don't disagree that the game has many stances and all that jazz, but it doesn't change the fact you can randomly mash two buttons and the game plays itself.

So you can sit there and tell me all day that the game is deep and get angry when people say that they can whiz through it by mashing buttons but I simply made that video to prove that those people weren't lying.

So go ahead and make your silly FF comparisons, that doesn't change the fact that Heavenly Sword is a simple button masher that tried to be more.

 

plzdontbanme said: Play on a bigger T.V

 That's a 40" TV and that's plenty big enough for me. 

 

No, you're missing the point. I could play the game and learn the deep system but why bother when I can randomly mash two buttons and let the game play for me? I don't disagree that the game has many stances and all that jazz, but it doesn't change the fact you can randomly mash two buttons and the game plays itself. So you can sit there and tell me all day that the game is deep and get angry when people say that they can whiz through it by mashing buttons but I simply made that video to prove that those people weren't lying. So go ahead and make your silly FF comparisons, that doesn't change the fact that Heavenly Sword is a simple button masher that tried to be more.   plzdontbanme said: Play on a bigger T.V  That's a 40" TV and that's plenty big enough for me.

I can partially agree on that :P, however at later times "button mashing" gets replaced with countering, and the "button mashing" doesn't quite work with Kai, on the earlier stages you are completely right though, the enemy does very little guarding and is generally susceptible to  petty mashes, later on knowing the guard breaks and countering is what drives the combat forward lol.

Try doing that with the boss fights

ON topic:

I have heavenly sword the only thing good about it is the graphics. You should have played something else.

leo-j said: Try doing that with the boss fights

 Try staying interested in the game long enough to make it to the boss fights.  That is a challenge in and of itself.

twesterm said: Bladeneo said: twesterm said: Bladeneo said: twesterm said: Bladeneo said: The whole "Its a button basher" theme pisses me off, the combat system is deeper than that, just takes a while to understand everything.     So youve shown one video of someone playing the game in that way and that means it should be? Congratulations. That guy is using about 2% of the combat in the game. Yeah, that's me playing and showing that you can get through the demo at least pressing only those two buttons and not looking at the screen. You never have to look at the screen. You never have to move the control sticks. You never have to defend. You never have to do combos. The game does everything for you. A game with deep combat mechanics doesn't let you do all that (or I guess not do all that) and be decent at the game. Youre missing the point, because youve easily exploited the combat system doesnt make it any less in depth. Games like final fantasy have tricks to allow you to level up easily, but it doesnt mean the levelling system is any less complex or deep because youve exploited it. HS CAN be played as button basher, but my original point was I felt annoyed at how many people saw it as that and nothing more, when in fact if you took the time to explore the combat system its a lot deeper than people realise. No, you're missing the point. I could play the game and learn the deep system but why bother when I can randomly mash two buttons and let the game play for me? I don't disagree that the game has many stances and all that jazz, but it doesn't change the fact you can randomly mash two buttons and the game plays itself. So you can sit there and tell me all day that the game is deep and get angry when people say that they can whiz through it by mashing buttons but I simply made that video to prove that those people weren't lying. So go ahead and make your silly FF comparisons, that doesn't change the fact that Heavenly Sword is a simple button masher that tried to be more.

 
No, youre still missing the point. Just because the game can be played in a particular way doesnt mean it should be. Thats like saying an RPG is linear because it CAN be completed without any of the extra sidequests etc that can be undertaken. FF is REALLY short, it only took me 12 hours to whizz through the story, what a crap RPG. Or Perhaps COD4 is really easy cause I decided to play it on the easiest difficulty setting, why bother trying to play it on hard when I dont have to. If you honestly have that outlook on games then you shouldnt be playing them because every game can be exploited in one way or the other which ruins the experience, it doesnt make the game any shallower.