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ChrisIsNotSexy on 27 September 2010
Halo_Reach said:

ba...wahahahahahahahahahahahahahah thanks for the lolz there is a better chance of snow in the desert on a 95 degree day, also the ps3 will never ever pass the 360 in america, we love the 360 here...except a few people that wont even give the system a chnce do to there blind devotion to sony, ugh


Since when are 15 million people considered ''only a few?''lol



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goddog on 27 September 2010
theonewhoisme said:
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SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

"Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011" deja vu for almost every year since the ps3 came out http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338


off topic, where have all these vgchartz .. well haters come from recently? did we piss of GAF or something? (ive never understood that squabble)... or is this a reaction to the 360 taking over weekly sales again? i reserve my hate for the NPD ...

 

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For the recorded I don't hate it but it is pretty inaccurate and I'm not going to pretend it is accurate, (I mean adding 1 mil because of a mistake they made four years ago with it .3 mil from shipped numbers, I mean thats just stupid)

so it would be better for them to ignore a cumulative error? also the shipped numbers are released generally a month after they hit that number, so are you comparing to the numbers form the week shipments came out or lend of quarter numbers.  and as for the 360 being .3 (was the 360 right? or did i missread your post) the last quarter before cycling to a new model your going to be cycling down shipments cutting it close while trying to avoid shortages. though i will say i did not hear or see any 360 console shortages this year, (headset shortages though... for about 3 months hard as hell to find... it would happen when i break mine)

No you don't understand, VG had sales 300,000 behind the 360s shipped numbers when they were released at the fiscal report, VG then added 1,000,000 sales because they didn't count for something that happened four years ago (ie before the fiscal report), that means that they thought the 360 had more sold then shipped which is impossible, if you are arguing that the shipped numbers might have been a bit less then everything that was shipped at that point (things that fell into the fiscal report didn't account for everything up to the date of the release) I might almost buy that if there were shortages and it wasn't by so much and if they weren't behind 2 million on the ps3s and 1 million on the wiis but there were no shortages, ps3 was the one with shortages, theres no denying their numbers are millions off  


so let me see if i get what your saying, VGC on the day they released the quarters shipping numbers (which is a month after they stop counting for that quarter) only had 300K units free the number of free units im interested in is the number for the date the tracking for the quarter information ends, im betting that was more then 300k. by the time the numbers are out for us a month later who know MS could have holding shipments for the start of the next quarter and pumped a few hundred thousand out.

do you have the exact end date of the quarter in question, vgc listed as ltd and MS ltd. not the date the report was released but the date they stopped counting for the report

 

edit sorry for the slow reply got caught up in minecraft

VG had the 360 sales at about 300k less then the amount MS said they shipped, and then a month or so later (not sure when just heard about it) they add 1 million to the 360 sales because of under tracking 4 years ago or something, so if they added it at any point before the shipped numbers for 360 came in, VG would have shown 700k more 360s sold then MS said were shipped (even if it sold that much in a month that would mean there are no 360s left in stores at all), and there were no reported shortages for 360s, where there were reported shortages of ps3s which had 2 million more shipped then VG had sold, which means VG chartz numbers are way off and inconsistent, as for the date of the report http://scrawlfx.com/2010/04/xbox-360-reaches-40-million-sold the article says april 23

thats for last 3rd quarter (srd q 2010) which ends for MS on march 30th sells through at the time on VGC are listed at 39.119k shipping from MS at 40.2k seems like a fair gap for me.

april 23 is when it was reported not when the figures are for. 

year for MS ends in june which is the Q i thought you were talking about earlier, hence why i mentioned they might be running it dry to make next years shipments look better. got another one for me

How do you know exactly what VG had it at back then, I remember it being .3 million or at least under a million, and even still your forgetting that they under-tracked it by 1 million 4 years ago and then added it a few months later, so thats still next to none in stores, when ps3 had the shortages with 2 million (plus the extra month) apparently in stores, so yeah anyway you look at it VG is wrong, they seem to be giving 360 more sales then it has and ignoring alot of ps3 sales 


vgc has an adjustments thread, please find it in there if you would. i looked up your number, and traced it. i do not remember the point in time your talking about, where it was over/under by 300k i do recal a major adjust ment for all three consoles this summer do to under tracking across the board around  year end for ms (june)

 

edit there were ps3 shortages this year? hmm i dont remember that. last year yes lots of them sporadically all year, but this year?



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binary solo on 27 September 2010
johnglen said:
goddog said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I dont think xbox 360 will have a lead of 6 million by the end of this year. GT5 will sell consoles im sure. And sony has to be dumb not to bundle it with consoles. I think 360 will end up having a lead of maybe 4.5-5.5 million by the end of this year. And 5 million difference is not much anyways. Lets face it 360 came out a year earlier so it is natural for it to be ahead throughout this gen. The wii is a special case because well it was cheaper and was the "cool" thing to buy.

 

oh wait im going off topic. Anyways it might be possible. Blu ray sales are increasing every year. The ps3 price is decreasing every 1-2 years. Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011. I dont think the 360 will even come close to the number of quality games ps3 will have next year. All those games might actually sell a bunch of consoles. Imagine the PS3 going $200-$250 next year too! Either way people who don't own a ps3 will be missing out. Luckily i own both 360/ps3 :)

"Ps3 so far has the best line up for 2011" deja vu for almost every year since the ps3 came out http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=5338


off topic, where have all these vgchartz .. well haters come from recently? did we piss of GAF or something? (ive never understood that squabble)... or is this a reaction to the 360 taking over weekly sales again? i reserve my hate for the NPD ...

 

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That's it really. The xbox360 has been destroying the ps3 ever since the S launched , even without a permanent price drop, when you combine the official numbers that we are getting (NPD monthly, MC weekly) so the sony fans will do anything to make themselves sleep better at nights. The holiday months will be a riot since some people believe that....GT5 will revive the ps3 and when reality sets in and the first official holiday numbers come there will be...chaos.

The combined efford to insanely troll every kinect thread on every gaming forum from the most hardcore of the hardcore sony fans is another sign that deep down they know what's to come. I can't wait for November/December numbers.

As far as 2011, i am sure that ....huge "hits" like the last guardian, killzone 3, LBP2 and Infamous 2 will make the ps3 the winner in sales (after Gears3 outsells them all combined that is...)

I don't know what's worse, sore winners or sore losers.

OT, I think EA might have been confusing itself, because right now it looks more likely that 360 will overtake Wii in LTD sales.



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Seece on 27 September 2010
binary solo said:
johnglen said:

That's it really. The xbox360 has been destroying the ps3 ever since the S launched , even without a permanent price drop, when you combine the official numbers that we are getting (NPD monthly, MC weekly) so the sony fans will do anything to make themselves sleep better at nights. The holiday months will be a riot since some people believe that....GT5 will revive the ps3 and when reality sets in and the first official holiday numbers come there will be...chaos.

The combined efford to insanely troll every kinect thread on every gaming forum from the most hardcore of the hardcore sony fans is another sign that deep down they know what's to come. I can't wait for November/December numbers.

As far as 2011, i am sure that ....huge "hits" like the last guardian, killzone 3, LBP2 and Infamous 2 will make the ps3 the winner in sales (after Gears3 outsells them all combined that is...)

I don't know what's worse, sore winners or sore losers.

OT, I think EA might have been confusing itself, because right now it looks more likely that 360 will overtake Wii in LTD sales.

lol yeah that's the most amusing thing, it's sales are closer to Wii LTD, it's outselling it now and looks to be the only country over Q4 to maintain it's weekly sales lead.



 

Hyruken on 27 September 2010
iWarMachine said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!


we could start to see a change if FIFA11 gets PS3 advertising and GT5 coming...but i don't think the effect will be enough to change the tide...i'm sure it'll be a close battle though.



The Fifa ads have always been advertised as PS3. Not sure but i think they may have some exclusive advertising deal?

Regardless it won't be a close battle and isn't a close battle. 360 has almost doubled PS3 sales in UK. In nearly 4 years on sale PS3 has just crossed the 3m bracket. This is with having in my opinion a better line up of games, blu-ray, new model and price cuts. 1 game is not going to make a difference now. Price will and PS3 will never get close to 360's price. Look at what is happening now in UK. All MS did was release a new model, not even a price cut and it un-did all Sony's gains for the year in a matter of a few months. Imagine what it will do when the arcade drops to £99?

As for GT5 i am sorry but as mentioned time and time again i just don't think there are hundreds of thousands of people who have sat this gen out waiting 4-5 years for a GT game to come out before they buy a PS3. If they were that hardcore they would of got it for prologue. The reality is those die hard GT fans will also like other games on the Playstation 3 so will have bought it for them too. If it was a launch title then most deffinatly. But not 4-5 years into the gen.



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Seece on 27 September 2010
Hyruken said:
iWarMachine said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!


we could start to see a change if FIFA11 gets PS3 advertising and GT5 coming...but i don't think the effect will be enough to change the tide...i'm sure it'll be a close battle though.



The Fifa ads have always been advertised as PS3. Not sure but i think they may have some exclusive advertising deal?

Regardless it won't be a close battle and isn't a close battle. 360 has almost doubled PS3 sales in UK. In nearly 4 years on sale PS3 has just crossed the 3m bracket. This is with having in my opinion a better line up of games, blu-ray, new model and price cuts. 1 game is not going to make a difference now. Price will and PS3 will never get close to 360's price. Look at what is happening now in UK. All MS did was release a new model, not even a price cut and it un-did all Sony's gains for the year in a matter of a few months. Imagine what it will do when the arcade drops to £99?

As for GT5 i am sorry but as mentioned time and time again i just don't think there are hundreds of thousands of people who have sat this gen out waiting 4-5 years for a GT game to come out before they buy a PS3. If they were that hardcore they would of got it for prologue. The reality is those die hard GT fans will also like other games on the Playstation 3 so will have bought it for them too. If it was a launch title then most deffinatly. But not 4-5 years into the gen.

Understatement of the year, in the very brief period the PS3 outsold the 360 in the UK (8 weeks Sep- Oct) it outsold 360 by only 102k. 360 did more than that the first 2 weeks it was released. (120k)



 

Hyruken on 27 September 2010
Seece said:
Hyruken said:
iWarMachine said:
Seece said:

rofl. Never. PS3 hasn't beaten it once there in yearly sales, and barely tops 1 mill there a year.

EA have been arse licking Sony a lot lately, I don't know why. Maybe it's because Microsoft is firmly in bed with Activision .. but then it doesn't sound like Activision love Microsoft that much, just their money!


we could start to see a change if FIFA11 gets PS3 advertising and GT5 coming...but i don't think the effect will be enough to change the tide...i'm sure it'll be a close battle though.



The Fifa ads have always been advertised as PS3. Not sure but i think they may have some exclusive advertising deal?

Regardless it won't be a close battle and isn't a close battle. 360 has almost doubled PS3 sales in UK. In nearly 4 years on sale PS3 has just crossed the 3m bracket. This is with having in my opinion a better line up of games, blu-ray, new model and price cuts. 1 game is not going to make a difference now. Price will and PS3 will never get close to 360's price. Look at what is happening now in UK. All MS did was release a new model, not even a price cut and it un-did all Sony's gains for the year in a matter of a few months. Imagine what it will do when the arcade drops to £99?

As for GT5 i am sorry but as mentioned time and time again i just don't think there are hundreds of thousands of people who have sat this gen out waiting 4-5 years for a GT game to come out before they buy a PS3. If they were that hardcore they would of got it for prologue. The reality is those die hard GT fans will also like other games on the Playstation 3 so will have bought it for them too. If it was a launch title then most deffinatly. But not 4-5 years into the gen.

Understatement of the year, in the very brief period the PS3 outsold the 360 in the UK (8 weeks Sep- Oct) it outsold 360 by only 60. 360 did more than that the week it was released.

I meant gains in terms of total gains in europe. I haven't looked at PS3/360 sales in a longtime in UK.

Either way the point which i was making is that Sony have done a lot in UK over the past 12 months or so i.e price cuts/new models even bundles with 3 new games and 3 blu-rays and it hasen't made any difference at all. 1 game i.e GT5 won't change that pattern. Being cheaper will.



AnveL on 27 September 2010

i say life time sales it definitely will

but not at the moment..



sirvice on 27 September 2010

Thats PR blablabla. He didnt mention one single reason how Ps3 is going to achieve that.

I, same as EA as it seems, prefer PS3 over 360, but how can somebody state something unreasonable without backing it up.

Oh by the way i got a sms saying 360 will end up beeing second in Japan....



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Seece on 27 September 2010
AnveL said:

i say life time sales it definitely will

but not at the moment..

Why?