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Galaki on 20 September 2010

People expect Sony to price competitively against 3DS but asking them at the same time to out-specs the 3DS in every way possible...

It's a lose-lose battle for Sony.



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radishhead on 20 September 2010

It can't really be touch screen and 3d, unless it has 2 screens.



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radishhead on 20 September 2010

It can't really be touch screen and 3d, unless it has 2 screens.



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Squilliam on 20 September 2010
radishhead said:

It can't really be touch screen and 3d, unless it has 2 screens.

Well it could have a rear facing track pad.



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Legend11 on 20 September 2010

I'm not sure what they could do to make it a success.  It must be a huge PR nightmare for a company that has pushed 3D's advantages in gaming to now find itself in the position of having to downplay the competitor's handheld using it while they do not.



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Munkeh111 on 20 September 2010
Rafux said:

It should be something that makes the PSP2 a strong alternative to the Nintendo 3DS, something that makes it different, a unique gamestyle that no other portable has thats why im thinking multitouch touchscreen and sliding physical buttons.

It should be mostly good casual pure fun games like the DS but take advantage of the online and media component that Nintendo doesn't focus meaning Android, apps, Netflix, facebook, twitter, music services, web browser, camera.

Hell, I'm describing an iPod Touch with sliding physical buttons (2 analogs nubs) and deeper games.

Would you buy an iPod Touch with sliding physical buttons and deeper games?

When you say sliding physical buttons, you mean like the PSP go right?



NiKKoM on 20 September 2010
d21lewis said:

3.  Dual Analog:  This is potentially where the 3DS slipped up.  It took a little getting used to but the analog nub on the PSP works great.  Toss in a second one, and we're in business!

 

Not everyone has a 3rd "arm" large and hard enough to use the touchscreen while I'm using my one hand for controls and the other one for buttons.... only because you have one doesn't mean we all do.. >_>



 

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d21lewis on 20 September 2010
Squilliam said:
d21lewis said:

What does the PSP2 need to do right to compete against the likes of the 3DS and the rise of the smart phone? 

1.  Games:  A video game console lives and dies by its game library.  The PSP needs to have a strong library of games designed specifically for the portable experience.  Bite sized games that pack a big punch.  More SRPG's like Valkyria, FF Tactics, games like Monster Hunter, and such.  Portable games that are console experiences are all well and good, but they suffer on a portable system that many break out when they're bored.

2.  Online capability:  I'd pay $50 a year with a smile on my face (maybe more) if the PSP2 could access the net with the speed and efficiancy of an iPhone or a Droid X.  In this day and age, everything has a built in browser.  The PSP browser should be powerful and not have to rely on Wi-Fi hotspot, either.

3.  Dual Analog:  This is potentially where the 3DS slipped up.  It took a little getting used to but the analog nub on the PSP works great.  Toss in a second one, and we're in business!

4.  Huge Screen:  This is another area that the first PSP excelled.  Yes, the 3DS can display video in 3D but it's still  going to be on a tiny screen.  Even most cell phones suffer from having smaller screens.  Movie buffs on the go would consider the PSP2 if the viewing experience is the best around.

5.  Aggressive Pricing:  Price it near the 3DS.  Whatever that console costs, price the PSP similarly.  The less bulletpoints that the competition has, the better.  Cost $100 more than the competition, and the battle is over before it even starts.

6.  Don't push graphics too much:  Because, as it stands, graphics on the original PSP are pretty damned good.  A slight improvement would be welcome but don't spend tons and tons of R&D on technology that won't be appreciated by anyone except a small minority.  On a relatively tiny screen, "good enough" is good enough.

7.  3D screen:  So people will say they're copying Nintendo.  Who gives a shit!  Copy them!!  This is one selling point that Sony can't afford to overlook.  No matter how good the graphics, how sharp the screen, or how good the games, there are going to be people who get a 3DS simply because they're curious about the 3D.  Sony needs to be able to say, "Hey!  We have 3D, too!"  Hell, if they're lucky, there will be those that think Sony's 3D is better.

That's all I got.  Anybody else?

Doesn't 1 contradict 3? Don't most console ports require the two analogue sticks to be played effectively but most standard handheld games don't really need them at all.

Doesn't 4 contradict 5 and 6 and 7 and 1? If you have a huge screen it isn't pocketable and you need to spend a lot more on batteries and higher performance components and the 3D screen is going to be far more expensive. So you're returning it back to a glorified home console on the go.

The problem is that all the hardcore users want to take the PSP in the direction where it'll be least profitable or least popular. Why don't you decide on a direction you want the PSP to go rather than taking it in all directions with all 7 points. You have to compromise somewhere as does Sony.


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But anyway, 2 analogs.  Just because it has new experiences, don't forsake those who just want to play Syphon Filter at work.

4,5,6,and 7--The PSP already has a huge screen and it's portable.  It already has a good battery life.  If the 3DS can do 3D at a reasonable price, so can Sony.And by Tiny Screen, I mean compared to a TV, not other portables.  I don't see the contradictions.



arcane_chaos on 20 September 2010

severaly reduce or eliminate piracy....



d21lewis on 20 September 2010
fate said:

 

to start - 3d screen on PSP2 would not be efficient. nintendo already experimented, the effect is lost to finger prints and scuffs. 3G is not nessicary. Smart phons have this tech and it gives off TONS of RADIATION. thats millions of people world wide with potential cancer being glued to their ears (more so eyes, and fingertips since no one actually uses the phone to call any one anymore). WiFi is good enough. 

Browsing? you dont need a powerful interface just for email and web surfing, would be nice if it were faster for sites such as Youtube and Veoh, but not much you can do in the way of a portable. 

Touch screen would be nice, but just think of the energy drain. Dual nub? get a PSP PHAT or SLIM, cut a small hole in your case, and follow the Dual Nub tut. you can find it on GOOGLE. PSP2 does sound cool, and after the PSP Go! im not sure if i will own a 2 (like my 2000 and 1000)

what we need - ABILITY TO PORT HOMEBREW without the need for hacked firmware. Alot of the games people put out are really nice, like the Halo DS project, Doom port for PSP just to name a few. If Sony lets people write code for a smart phone, why wont they let people write code for a PSP?


Current PSP's can do youtube-hacked ones. As for radiation, did I mention I work in a Nuclear Power Plant?  And I'm posting from a Droid 2 from that plant right now?  3G is cool.  Battery life is great, too.  It cost $200 and it can run pretty much anything a PC can.