Those attrocities had nothing to do with those peoples' atheism, but rather with the political regime's they were promoting.

Or another way to put it.

Say your Christmas shopping.  You go into the mall and see a Salvation army guy ringing his bell.  So you give him 2 dollars.

Say an alternate you in a different dimention is shopping.   You go into the mall... but no salvation army guy.

Religion is basically a giant salvation army... it coaxes charitable giving out of people far better then anything atheists have currently.

Religious people are up to 25% more likely to give to nonreigious charities.

A re-focus on community centers or something similiar would be important to keep charity and morality at the same levels.

Yeah... you know.  That's the exact same arguement for the "wars between religions."

I agree. religion had nothing to do with all of those deaths.

I don't think that's really an arguement. Let's not sterotype those nut jobs,with the everyday atheist.

Except I religion was explicitely mentioned and ussed to rally the people to war. Did Stalin ever say "sacrifice your life in the name of atheism"? I'm sure the Pope did say something similar regarding Christianity when he was urging Christians to go and fight in the Crusades (a religiously motivated conflict). Have you ever heard of an atheist state invading another country to spread atheism?

so its fine for them to invade and spread atheism as by product as long as they didnt say it openly that its to destroy religions?

Actually... Lenin, Stalin.  Marxism in general?  Communism of that branch in general says one thing you need to do is get rid of religion.

Plenty of atheists on this board have wished religion would be outlawed.

"Autocracy cannot do without its twin agents: a hangman and a priest, the first to suppress popular resistance by force, the second to sweeten and embellish the lot of the oppressed with empty promises of a heavenly kingdom"

(Of course Lenin has been proven wrong here.)

The Crusades really had zero to do with Christianity and everythign to do with the economic realities of going to war at that time.

Those invaded always lost.

Religion was nothing but the "Referee" of Midevil Europe.

Without it... more anarchy and war would of happened.  Because said nations would be in a state of constantly invading each other to avoid the possibility of them being the ones invaded.

Atheist leaders have suppressed religion because religion already has its rules for people, and those weren't rules issued by those leaders.

However, atheists fighting for the sake of imposing atheism on others because that's what they believe is about as likely as gay hairdressers fighting to break into your home to fix that horrible haircut they saw you with.

I guess so. The whole point of christianity is to believe in the teaching of jesus christ. The whole christian religion and faith is based on that. Jesus never said you have to be christian in order to be with God ( being in heaven ). He said you should follow him.I remember someone (who is probably much smarter than me and you ) saying''you dont have to believe in Jesus, Mosses or Mohammed, rather believe in the teachings these men teach and you'll earn eternal slavation'' Christians, Muslims and Jews believe in the same God and some even have some same relgious characters.. When Muhammed escaped his enemies in Mecca, he came upon christian king who let him in his kingdom and said: come in and let me know about you God'' on which MUhammed replied: ''Our God is your God, and your God is our God''.