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Christian973 on 26 September 2010

Not if the 3DS releases this holiday and is seen as the "MUST THING TO GET" Microsoft lol



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Jadedx on 26 September 2010
Conegamer said:
Michael-5 said:
Conegamer said:
Doobie_wop said:

It better sell 3 million, that marketing budget is ridiculous.


But it won't. It'll sell 2mil max. Sad but true. Keep an eye on it, 250k max opening.

That's funny because worlwide pre-orders are about 200k and it's still 9 weeks before launch?


My mistake, I meant in Americas. I predict 350K opening WW, reaching around 2-2.2mil by year's end. Reasonable, but not unfair.

There are over 120k preorders in the us alone with 7 weeks to go and the 100 million dollar ad campaign has not started yet, I think its safe to say that Kinect will hit way more than 350k first day.



mundus6 on 26 September 2010
xaq404 said:

Yeah, right. Kinect is honestly pretty embarrassing. Microsoft's understanding of the "casual" audience is pathetic. 

Microsoft: Well, that WIi thing is doing pretty damn well! Maybe we should make our own motion controller! And sell it to the casuals! But what do these "casuals" like? 

Microsoft's understanding of the Wii's audience: HERP DERP MOTION CONTROLS DEERRRP COLORFUL GRAPHICS HERP HERPPP SHALLOW GAMEPLAY DEERRRRPPPPP.

Microsoft: Wow! What retards! This will be easy to sell! We just need to make colorful minigame fests! Who cares how good they actually are? Who cares if the hardware is $150? These retard's will buy it if we advertise it!

Take this approach opposed to Nintendo's strategy of basically taking their arcade games experience and using that to make motion control games that play like arcade games, and using a simple exterior.

This is targeted towards new console owners, $299 is cheaper than a Wii plus a Balance board which used to be a popular combo. The kinect games i've seen so far looks much better than Wii spots, Wii fit and Wii Sports resort. Those 3 games are 3 of the most popular for Wii, only games missing are Mario Kart and NSMBWii and you got all the "casual" games on the Wii thats popular.

I'm not saying this is the shit or anything hell i wont buy a Kinect, but the audience will be there since the games which are popular on Wii can be recreated better on Kinect (fitness games and sport simulators).



Sweep on 26 September 2010
Jadedx said:
Sweep said:
BenVTrigger said:

After the announcements of awesome core stuff like Steel Battalion and Panzer Dragoon this doesn't seem far fetched at all.  

I know I was gonna wait till probably next year to get one but now I'm for sure getting one at launch.


1 - It's not Panzer Dragoon, it's made by the creator of PD

2 - It's an Xbox Live title...

It's retail, Siliconera made a mistake.

All the articles I red state it's an XBLA title...



SecondWar on 26 September 2010

I still waiting for a game that actually appeals to me. If I didnt get the 360S 250GB bundle with Halo Reach, it isnt going to happen with Kinect. Plus this will give me a better chance to look at how well received it is, if its really all its cracked up to be or if it just lags all the time.



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Michael-5 on 26 September 2010
Jadedx said:
Conegamer said:
Michael-5 said:
Conegamer said:
Doobie_wop said:

It better sell 3 million, that marketing budget is ridiculous.


But it won't. It'll sell 2mil max. Sad but true. Keep an eye on it, 250k max opening.

That's funny because worlwide pre-orders are about 200k and it's still 9 weeks before launch?


My mistake, I meant in Americas. I predict 350K opening WW, reaching around 2-2.2mil by year's end. Reasonable, but not unfair.

There are over 120k preorders in the us alone with 7 weeks to go and the 100 million dollar ad campaign has not started yet, I think its safe to say that Kinect will hit way more than 350k first day.

Even if Kinect does do 350k day 1 and 2-2.2 million by years end in Americas, the thread is about Kinect selling 3 million worldwide, and if it sells 2 million in Americas, it should get at least a million in EMEAA. So basically you agree with the thread topic? 3 million fby years end for Kinect?



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Michael-5 on 26 September 2010
Conegamer said:
Michael-5 said:
Conegamer said:
mundus6 said:
Conegamer said:
mundus6 said:

If 3DS launches this holiday everybody that Kinect are target against (casuals) will forget about it. M$ is pushing Kinect to hard imo, we 360 owners want our share of exclusives that are not for Kinect please. That said, it will be bigger than Move.


I think Move will be bigger- It's launched sooner, is cheaper and has a bigger variety of games.


Wii games, Kinect is something new, Move is a Wii mote that look like a dildo. Consumers aren't gonna spend that much money on motion control (Wii is $200, Kinect $300, Move $400). Also third parties other than Sega (and fitness games like EA) doesn't sell well on the Wii, its Nintendo that makes the Wii games.

Sony aren't a bad company, hell this gen you could say they have the best exclusives, but a HUGE part of the Playstation brand has always been third party, i just dont see that happening with the Move except for adding Move as a 2nd control scheme (like Heavy Rain and RE5) and alternative controllers never sell well. Kinect gets crazy 3rd party support.

I guess we'll see in a few weeks time :)

Didn't the Move only have 4 launch games? Tumble, Sports Champions, Get the Party Started and I forget the last?

I looked at how many games both peripherals have for 2010, it's 20-21 games in favor of the PS3 Move, and to be fair thats not much more considering the 2 months extra the peripheral has on the market.

I don't share your optimism for the PS3 Move. I think most gamers interested in the Move already own a PS3. I think the Wii Fit sold more balance boards then the Move will sell peripherals.

As for 3rd party games on the Wii, they do sell well. Just Dance, EA Sports Active, and Carnival Games are 3 titles to sell over 3 million. However in comparision to the games Nintendo has, thats not much at all.

As for 3DS, if that launches this fall, Kinect sales will be killed. The Nintendo DS will be the best selling console by the end of the year, a successor console with 3D support, and an Ocarina of Time Remake....KILLER! The 3DS on it's own could probably outsell the PS3 and 360 combined total sales, never-mind the peripherals.


Damn straight.

I have very little optimism for move, but that's still more than I have for Kinect. Kinect's gimmick (hands-free gaming) can do nothing but hold back the "proper" games, such as Oblivion, Bioshock, *shudders* COD etc. The Move can at least take the Wii ports of sucesful games (Wii sports, Resident Evil, Conduit, NMH etc.) and with little work, Move has good games.

Move can be used to port future 3rd party Wii games, but I think the appeal of the peripheral is for hardcore gamers to play Killzone, and Resident Evil 5 using Wii like precision. I don't think it will attract more then the more wealthy PS3 gamers, and maybe a few rich kids who are convinced the PS3 with Move is a Wii HD..



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Conegamer on 27 September 2010
Michael-5 said:
Jadedx said:
Conegamer said:
Michael-5 said:
Conegamer said:
Doobie_wop said:

It better sell 3 million, that marketing budget is ridiculous.


But it won't. It'll sell 2mil max. Sad but true. Keep an eye on it, 250k max opening.

That's funny because worlwide pre-orders are about 200k and it's still 9 weeks before launch?


My mistake, I meant in Americas. I predict 350K opening WW, reaching around 2-2.2mil by year's end. Reasonable, but not unfair.

There are over 120k preorders in the us alone with 7 weeks to go and the 100 million dollar ad campaign has not started yet, I think its safe to say that Kinect will hit way more than 350k first day.

Even if Kinect does do 350k day 1 and 2-2.2 million by years end in Americas, the thread is about Kinect selling 3 million worldwide, and if it sells 2 million in Americas, it should get at least a million in EMEAA. So basically you agree with the thread topic? 3 million fby years end for Kinect?

I think you've read me wrong- I mean 2.2mil WW- I really have 0 hope whatsoever. I'll be VERY surprised if it reaches 3 million, and I reckon maybe 6-10mil LT WW also.



 

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Michael-5 on 27 September 2010
Conegamer said:
Michael-5 said:
Jadedx said:
Conegamer said:
Michael-5 said:
Conegamer said:
Doobie_wop said:

It better sell 3 million, that marketing budget is ridiculous.


But it won't. It'll sell 2mil max. Sad but true. Keep an eye on it, 250k max opening.

That's funny because worlwide pre-orders are about 200k and it's still 9 weeks before launch?


My mistake, I meant in Americas. I predict 350K opening WW, reaching around 2-2.2mil by year's end. Reasonable, but not unfair.

There are over 120k preorders in the us alone with 7 weeks to go and the 100 million dollar ad campaign has not started yet, I think its safe to say that Kinect will hit way more than 350k first day.

Even if Kinect does do 350k day 1 and 2-2.2 million by years end in Americas, the thread is about Kinect selling 3 million worldwide, and if it sells 2 million in Americas, it should get at least a million in EMEAA. So basically you agree with the thread topic? 3 million fby years end for Kinect?

I think you've read me wrong- I mean 2.2mil WW- I really have 0 hope whatsoever. I'll be VERY surprised if it reaches 3 million, and I reckon maybe 6-10mil LT WW also.

Sorry, that underlined bit confused me. Kinect already has over 200k pre-orders, and if it follows a normal sales trend, that should go up to 500k WW at least. Thats just pre-orders alone, never mind stor pick ups. How can you reasonably beleive it will only sell 350k on day 1 when Pre-orders alone are expected to surpass that mark?



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Conegamer on 29 September 2010
Michael-5 said:
Conegamer said:
Michael-5 said:
Jadedx said:
Conegamer said:
Michael-5 said:
Conegamer said:
Doobie_wop said:

It better sell 3 million, that marketing budget is ridiculous.


But it won't. It'll sell 2mil max. Sad but true. Keep an eye on it, 250k max opening.

That's funny because worlwide pre-orders are about 200k and it's still 9 weeks before launch?


My mistake, I meant in Americas. I predict 350K opening WW, reaching around 2-2.2mil by year's end. Reasonable, but not unfair.

There are over 120k preorders in the us alone with 7 weeks to go and the 100 million dollar ad campaign has not started yet, I think its safe to say that Kinect will hit way more than 350k first day.

Even if Kinect does do 350k day 1 and 2-2.2 million by years end in Americas, the thread is about Kinect selling 3 million worldwide, and if it sells 2 million in Americas, it should get at least a million in EMEAA. So basically you agree with the thread topic? 3 million fby years end for Kinect?

I think you've read me wrong- I mean 2.2mil WW- I really have 0 hope whatsoever. I'll be VERY surprised if it reaches 3 million, and I reckon maybe 6-10mil LT WW also.

Sorry, that underlined bit confused me. Kinect already has over 200k pre-orders, and if it follows a normal sales trend, that should go up to 500k WW at least. Thats just pre-orders alone, never mind stor pick ups. How can you reasonably beleive it will only sell 350k on day 1 when Pre-orders alone are expected to surpass that mark?

Hmm...interesting analogy. I suppose at the end-all, the only proof we'll have is on the 1st January (or whenever the numbers are released :P). Then we'll see whose right. 7 weeks on retail for 3 million is a heluvalot.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.