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The 'shovelware' is systematic of Move's bigger problem - being seen as Wii 2.0 without the personality of the Wii.

Pretty much everything in the launch line-up has been done already on Wii (most of Kinect's too) and while the tech is admittedly better, the games lack the Nintendo charm of Wii Sports.

As it is people whine that Wii's collect dust after a couple months.    If this line-up is any indication Move will collect dust after a couple days.

I don't think Socom will help.   IR pointer is superior to dual analog, but if your already great using analog sticks why go through the trouble (and arm strain) of learning how to actually aim?  If people really wanted that, FPSs on Wii would be huge.  It's not.  Won't be on Move either.



 

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Gamerace said:

The 'shovelware' is systematic of Move's bigger problem - being seen as Wii 2.0 without the personality of the Wii.

Pretty much everything in the launch line-up has been done already on Wii (most of Kinect's too) and while the tech is admittedly better, the games lack the Nintendo charm of Wii Sports.

As it is people whine that Wii's collect dust after a couple months.    If this line-up is any indication Move will collect dust after a couple days.

I don't think Socom will help.   IR pointer is superior to dual analog, but if your already great using analog sticks why go through the trouble (and arm strain) of learning how to actually aim?  If people really wanted that, FPSs on Wii would be huge.  It's not.  Won't be on Move either.

Could it be that people who want to play FPS games are not buying a Wii because there arent that many on there and the ones that are arent that great.  Where as there are plenty of them on the other 2 consoles



Vetteman94 said:
Gamerace said:

The 'shovelware' is systematic of Move's bigger problem - being seen as Wii 2.0 without the personality of the Wii.

Pretty much everything in the launch line-up has been done already on Wii (most of Kinect's too) and while the tech is admittedly better, the games lack the Nintendo charm of Wii Sports.

As it is people whine that Wii's collect dust after a couple months.    If this line-up is any indication Move will collect dust after a couple days.

I don't think Socom will help.   IR pointer is superior to dual analog, but if your already great using analog sticks why go through the trouble (and arm strain) of learning how to actually aim?  If people really wanted that, FPSs on Wii would be huge.  It's not.  Won't be on Move either.

Could it be that people who want to play FPS games are not buying a Wii because there arent that many on there and the ones that are arent that great.  Where as there are plenty of them on the other 2 consoles

That is true.  But lots people own an HD system and a Wii.  If they really cherished the improved aiming IR gave, they'd get CoD on Wii (as well as or instead of HD).   Heck, if they wanted the best aiming and graphics they'd play on PC.   As is I wouldn't expect FPS on Wii to be monster sellers due to the graphics/power limitations but I would expect them to sell a lot more if motion/IR aiming matter to the FPS crowd.   It doesn't and Move owners will quickly go back to Dual analog after the novelty wears off.



 

I'm all for trying out some shooter action with Move...As long as it's accurate i'll give it a shot (Pun Intended)




Just waiting for that PS Vita to come out so I can play some full featured games on the go with that beautiful screen and control scheme...

Gamerace said:
Vetteman94 said:
Gamerace said:

The 'shovelware' is systematic of Move's bigger problem - being seen as Wii 2.0 without the personality of the Wii.

Pretty much everything in the launch line-up has been done already on Wii (most of Kinect's too) and while the tech is admittedly better, the games lack the Nintendo charm of Wii Sports.

As it is people whine that Wii's collect dust after a couple months.    If this line-up is any indication Move will collect dust after a couple days.

I don't think Socom will help.   IR pointer is superior to dual analog, but if your already great using analog sticks why go through the trouble (and arm strain) of learning how to actually aim?  If people really wanted that, FPSs on Wii would be huge.  It's not.  Won't be on Move either.

Could it be that people who want to play FPS games are not buying a Wii because there arent that many on there and the ones that are arent that great.  Where as there are plenty of them on the other 2 consoles

That is true.  But lots people own an HD system and a Wii.  If they really cherished the improved aiming IR gave, they'd get CoD on Wii (as well as or instead of HD).   Heck, if they wanted the best aiming and graphics they'd play on PC.   As is I wouldn't expect FPS on Wii to be monster sellers due to the graphics/power limitations but I would expect them to sell a lot more if motion/IR aiming matter to the FPS crowd.   It doesn't and Move owners will quickly go back to Dual analog after the novelty wears off.

Well maybe they do cherish the improved aiming the IR gave, but because their friends dont have that console they arent going to buy it.   Let face it, the majority of consoles FPS gamers are buying them for the online play, which means that they are going to be looking at which friends are buying it and which will have the best online features with first and foremost.   Both of which the Wii really lacks at compared to the other 2 consoles. 

In addition to that, it also could be that maybe that maybe the average FPS gamer doesnt understand what the advantages are for the IR pointer control system.  Im gonna guess not because if they knew,  they would be playing on PC like you said.  But introducing that control scheme to a larger group could expand the awareness of the advantages.  Let face it,  if the average CoD gamer found out he could get an advantage over his buddies just by using a different controller,  they would.



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@gamerace  Ill take Move's accurate sports ripoff over Wii Sports "charm" and inaccuracy any day of the week



oniyide said:

@gamerace  Ill take Move's accurate sports ripoff over Wii Sports "charm" and inaccuracy any day of the week

I didnt realize Wii Sports had an accuracy issue?????



Sony is brilliant in following the trends.

Crappy casual shovelware sells well on the WIi so it will also well on the PS3, right?  Look at those sales of Brunswick Bowling on the Wii.



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oniyide said:

@gamerace  Ill take Move's accurate sports ripoff over Wii Sports "charm" and inaccuracy any day of the week



I won't defend inaccurancies but charm and fun! goes a long way to reaching the expanded base.

Even IGN's editors finds Move's sports game lacking replayability.   

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/112/1120328p1.html

For most lay people who have probably played Wii Sports to death, improved accurancy won't win them over if it's just not that much fun to play.