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Gamerace on 15 September 2010
Conegamer said:
Gamerace said:
Conegamer said:

I just don't understand how-and why- they expected this game to sell well, and why the hate on the Wii? Maybe if you made a PROPER game (eg real deadspace) then maybe you'll have some say. Shovelware and fitness crap doesn't cut it, I'm afraid.


It's a matter of expecting it to sell in line with previous years.   Wii has always been the top seller of TW games this generation but this year the TW sales on Wii have totally collapsed.  Sales on HD systems aren't stellar either.

Personally, I feel this is because most golf fans on Wii got the WM enhanced TW10, and they are quite content with it.  There's just not enough new content/gameplay in TW11 to justify buying the same game again to the Wii's more casual base.  

Wii's audience is also more likely to be put off by the whole TW image problem.  I can't prove that with any metrics, but I know a lot of women who bought TW Wii for their boyfriends/husbands and you can bet they probably wouldn't want to give their money to a lying, cheating manwhore like Woods or encourage their guys to want to be like Woods.

Shovelware doesn't sell on Wii (unless it's at least half decent and fun) but exercise games do.  EA Sport Active is EA's biggest seller on Wii to date and one you can expect to see on PS3 and 360 soon.

I suppose, but is it not true that EA havn't really been giving Wii owners their AAA releases, and therefore shouldn't complain about sales of a franchise which, as you said, has everything going against it?

Wii is the lead platform for Tiger Woods (since it's been the sales leader).   The Wii version has more features than the HD versions, great online, Disc Golf, far superior controls with WM 1:1 swing (refined from TW10).   TW11 Wii is simply the best golf game ever made (according to reviews).   It simply doesn't get better (okay, someone is going to point out the Move version will be better - we'll see).    In no way is TW shovelware.  Nor is it cartoonified like Madden.  It's quality.   However, it's still too close to TW10 to get us cheapass Wii owners to buy it full price, or get over Tiger's image issues.



 

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GianCarmen on 15 September 2010

EA so far have dropped the ball on the Wii.



amp316 on 15 September 2010

If we know anything about the Wii userbase, it's that they enjoy minigames.  EA should have included a collection of twenty so minigames.  One of them could have be Tiger's wife Elin.  You could have your choice of club to wrap around Tiger's head.   



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Conegamer on 15 September 2010
Gamerace said:
Conegamer said:
Gamerace said:
Conegamer said:

I just don't understand how-and why- they expected this game to sell well, and why the hate on the Wii? Maybe if you made a PROPER game (eg real deadspace) then maybe you'll have some say. Shovelware and fitness crap doesn't cut it, I'm afraid.


It's a matter of expecting it to sell in line with previous years.   Wii has always been the top seller of TW games this generation but this year the TW sales on Wii have totally collapsed.  Sales on HD systems aren't stellar either.

Personally, I feel this is because most golf fans on Wii got the WM enhanced TW10, and they are quite content with it.  There's just not enough new content/gameplay in TW11 to justify buying the same game again to the Wii's more casual base.  

Wii's audience is also more likely to be put off by the whole TW image problem.  I can't prove that with any metrics, but I know a lot of women who bought TW Wii for their boyfriends/husbands and you can bet they probably wouldn't want to give their money to a lying, cheating manwhore like Woods or encourage their guys to want to be like Woods.

Shovelware doesn't sell on Wii (unless it's at least half decent and fun) but exercise games do.  EA Sport Active is EA's biggest seller on Wii to date and one you can expect to see on PS3 and 360 soon.

I suppose, but is it not true that EA havn't really been giving Wii owners their AAA releases, and therefore shouldn't complain about sales of a franchise which, as you said, has everything going against it?

Wii is the lead platform for Tiger Woods (since it's been the sales leader).   The Wii version has more features than the HD versions, great online, Disc Golf, far superior controls with WM 1:1 swing (refined from TW10).   TW11 Wii is simply the best golf game ever made (according to reviews).   It simply doesn't get better (okay, someone is going to point out the Move version will be better - we'll see).    In no way is TW shovelware.  Nor is it cartoonified like Madden.  It's quality.   However, it's still too close to TW10 to get us cheapass Wii owners to buy it full price, or get over Tiger's image issues.

Perhaps, but he issue with recycling games which are effectively THE SAME every year is that people don't feel as though it's worth shelling out another £40 for the game. It may not be shovelware, but I'd like to see something different anyway.



 

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routsounmanman on 15 September 2010

Thank God EA didn't dissapoint Wii gamers with games like DS:E, Boogie, Madden, etc.



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patjuan32 on 15 September 2010

<table style="width: 90%;" border="0"><tr><td><strong>darthdevidem01 said:</strong><br /><table style="width: 90%;" border="0"> <tbody><tr> <td><strong>TX109 said:</strong><br> <p>well, EA is a dissapointment so they really have no room to talk...</p> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <p>What?</p> <p>If anything EA has improved SO MUCH in the past few years.</p> <p>They went from being as hated as Activision to now even liked.</p></td></tr></table><br /><br />



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Conegamer on 15 September 2010
patjuan32 said:
<table style="width: 90%;" border="0"><tr><td><strong>darthdevidem01 said:</strong><br /><table style="width: 90%;" border="0"> <tbody><tr> <td><strong>TX109 said:</strong><br> <p>well, EA is a dissapointment so they really have no room to talk...</p> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <p>What?</p> <p>If anything EA has improved SO MUCH in the past few years.</p> <p>They went from being as hated as Activision to now even liked.</p></td></tr></table><br /><br />


What?



 

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LordTheNightKnight on 15 September 2010
Conegamer said:
patjuan32 said:
<table style="width: 90%;" border="0"><tr><td><strong>darthdevidem01 said:</strong><br /><table style="width: 90%;" border="0"> <tbody><tr> <td><strong>TX109 said:</strong><br> <p>well, EA is a dissapointment so they really have no room to talk...</p> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <p>What?</p> <p>If anything EA has improved SO MUCH in the past few years.</p> <p>They went from being as hated as Activision to now even liked.</p></td></tr></table><br /><br />


What?


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Yakuzaice on 15 September 2010

Wow, I hadn't realized how disastrous the sales had been this year.  Although last year had a pretty massive drop even with Motion Plus and support from Nintendo, plus no Tiger scandal.  It's really quite amazing how a game can go from 1.3 million to just 90k in a couple years.



Conegamer on 15 September 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
Conegamer said:
patjuan32 said:
<table style="width: 90%;" border="0"><tr><td><strong>darthdevidem01 said:</strong><br /><table style="width: 90%;" border="0"> <tbody><tr> <td><strong>TX109 said:</strong><br> <p>well, EA is a dissapointment so they really have no room to talk...</p> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <p>What?</p> <p>If anything EA has improved SO MUCH in the past few years.</p> <p>They went from being as hated as Activision to now even liked.</p></td></tr></table><br /><br />


What?


Sometimes the rich text fails for me (I can't even reload the broken page. I have to open up a new tab/window to a page that links to the broken page and click on the broken page from there), and that likely happened here.


I see- I was worried it was some spambot, but that isn't the case.



 

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