Rush Limbaugh and other media talking heads and tea party leaders are saying they are being infiltrated.

Outside of the fact that there was a website designed to specifically organize people to do just that?

And there have been people interviewed who specifically did that?

Also, you know... photoshop.  Some likely are misspelled though.  You can find that kind of stuff EVERYWHERE.

Though, the Obama isn't a natural born citizen thing... actually their is still some weight behind that.  He never really did prove he was a natural citizen. 

The only birthcertificate he prodived is one that can also be given to people born overseas in foreign countries.  When given the oppurtunity to provide the full birthcertificate that would shut everybody up... he didn't.  Even though it would be easy to do, and would shut everybody up who thinks he isn't a citizen.

If this were a Republican doing it, I'd gurantee the entire matter would be flipped with democrats thinking he was born in another country, and republicans defending him.

People forget, the Republicans wanted to remove that requirement for being President back when they thought Swartzneggar was going to be the next Reagan.

Had he run, suddenly with the same kind of birth certificate... Democrats would of been pissed.

As the rules are the rules.  (why they need to be that way though.... got me.)

that's a typical response actually. It's Karlrovian actually. 

You know karl roves first election in high school? He won it by putting up signs making derogatory remarks about his own candidate. Then they made the claim that they were being insulted rather than debated.

Similarly, the right is saying the same thing. 'the libs care too much about spelling than the message'. It's typical "elitest" criticisms. They know we have a point. These protesters are uninformed, uneducated, and really just...sloppy. But that follows everything the way they've been acting already. the birthers, the hussein-ists, and the myriad of other movements within the tea-party coalition are as such in spades. And let's face it, the tea party is one of the most unfocused, hypocritical groups around. Only fractions of the group believe what other fractions believe, and oppose each other in various arguments yet they put that behind them in order to get their message out. They get together, allow each other to be completely misguided and lied to all in the name of the end-goal.

Also, about your first video, how do you know that HE'S not a Republican plant? How did they figure him out so easily? There's no video of him talking to the conway crowd, and he jsut appears at a conway rally being filmed by the same guy. Don't you think that's a little coincidental?

The dude's name is Tyler Clay Collins, and he's a Democratic activist who was volunteering for the Conway campaign. There are screengrabs from his Facebook page out there if you care to go and find them.

I'm sure there's no shortage of stupid racists in the tea party, just like there's no shortage of stupid racists everywhere. But if the tea party was as thoroughly stupid and racist and intellectually bankrupt as you make them out to be, there'd be no need to infiltrate them (Crash the Tea Party, etc.)

@Kasz. He released his birth certificate. It was checked in person by the staff of Factcheck who confirmed it was really there in Honolulu. It says 'County of Birth: Honolulu' on the certificate.

You cannot get a birth certificate saying those things unless you were born in Hawaii.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

The dude's name is Tyler Clay Collins, and he's a Democratic activist who was volunteering for the Conway campaign. There are screengrabs from his Facebook page out there if you care to go and find them.

this isn't a democrat/republican thing. It's a tea party thing. 

But yeah, it shouldn't be so shocking that there is a website of pictures with people having poor spelling. There are website that people take pictures of shit in their toilet and have others rate them. There is also a book and website on the worst family photos. Why shouldn't there be one for this? It's not some conspiracy, it's an entrepreneurial person making a living off the foolishness of others. 

"people interviewed who have specifically done that". So you're willing to believe one person that says something but not another? What if those interviewees then came on and said, "I only said that in order to make the dems look like they were trying to demonize the republicans" would you still believe that person? ANd then what if they came out again and said, "I only said that I said that to make republicans look bad by setting up the dems"... etc etc etc. The point is, you trusting someone on their word probably because you're inclined to but also because it hints at discrepancy, which to most people comes of as trustworthy. 

And I would be sorely disappointed if you actually believe the birther movement has merit. I'm a natural citizen and I have the "born in a foreign country" certificate. It's a valid certificate. It's a legal document that I'm a citizen. That is all that's needed. Period.

If he gets a different one (which I don't even have proof of any of this by the way. I'm taking you at your word that my legal document is actually insufficient, and I'm deferring to you that that certificate is the only one he has presented) would it REALLY end there? Honestly? If so, then i owe the other side an apology, but that's going on the assumption that all the other rumors and jibes and lies are all based around an actual concern.

And that proves that he is a democrat? I ask again, how do you know this isn't a republican plant?