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gekkokamen on 01 September 2010
thranx said:
gekkokamen said:
sergiodaly said:
thranx said:
sergiodaly said:

the games round have some thin reasons for the tie!

@thranks - Blu Ray is there... it does not matter if you want it or use it... the value is there so they must give the points for it! your personal opinion and experience is irrelevant.


Just cause its theree does not mean it has value to gamers. For people who bought it to play games all it has done is increase price, not the value. It is not irrelevant, as it could be this way for many consumers. And it is especially relevant as this whole video was based off of three people opinion, not facts or anything like that, but opinion.

well i see it the other way around... the only fact is that is there and gives the machine more value (GT5 fans will back me up on this for sure), if you like or dislike, that is opinion! and value is about real thing available to us... but lets not get into a fight about it... like you say in your first post "for me at least" you don't see the value and i get that you are free to have opinions but the only thing i was pointing out is that personal opinions and experiences aren't relevant in the matter, that,  you have one and i other...

well, now that MS and Sony are really sticking to their 10-year plan or whatever, the storage capacity advantage of blu-ray becomes even more relevant. Besides who said it doesn't have value? I've playing games on my PS3 that just wouldn't be possible or the same on 1 DVD or multiple discs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, the list goes on and everybody not an ignorant knows this. I will be enjoying my Gran Turismo 5 in one blu-ray thank you very much. Oh, and even "lesser" multiplat games enjoy much superior less compressed and TRULY HD CG VIDEOS on the PS3 versions. Like Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, that list is quite long, and I do appreciate video quality on my 70" screen not those pixelated-compressed 360 videos yuck....I guess you can't appreciate value on a crappy screen playing crappy games, but I'm nobody to judge....

Seeing as there better games graphics wise on the pc and they require no blu ray, I tend to not give it credit for graphics. They could achieve the same results by using multiple discs with installs, since all ps3's have a harddrive.

great alternative! turn PS3 gaming into the absolute tedium it is playing on PC. PS3 games coming on multiple dvds and you need to install large chunks of data on your hard drive...maybe for you, not for me. Thank God for both blu-ray and large non-propietary HDD by the way.



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Vetteman94 on 01 September 2010
ssj12 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Trentonater said:
leo-j said:

very 360 biased... and mis informed

 someone should tell them there is netflix streaming and will be cross game chat 

Well at least tell them about the Netflix streaming, cant argue for a feature that isnt there yet and has no timeline on when it will show up

How about Hulu Plus, a feature time exclusive to the PS3? How about everything I stated in my post above? How about the other features like the basic but sometimes useful image and video editing software the PS3 has? Or the nifty slideshow app? ability to hook a printer to the PS3 and print photos? There are tons of small, minor, features that make the PS3 unique and awesome.

Well I absolutely agree that those features should have been brought up.  They obviously left things out just to keep the score as close as possible. If you really lined up all of the features side by side,  it would start to look a little lopsided. In the end this was done for hits but they chose the right winner IMO. 

I have used every feature you have mentioned, except Hulu, so I understand how valuable those features are and it really starts to add up for the PS3.   



Vetteman94 on 01 September 2010
raptors11 said:
Trentonater said:
Vetteman94 said:
Trentonater said:

it still breaks when you move it while a disk is in motion and its curved design would cause gpu damage if knocked over

Why would you move it while a game was inside playing?   And why would a console be in danger of being knocked over,  it is reccommended you lie them on their side anyway.  Problem solved

talking about toddlers running around stepping on it happened to me

lmao yeah I can vouch for this sort of thing. My fuckin dog stepped on my 360 a while ago, it didn't break it but it scratched the fuck out of my GTA4 disk.

Again I dont see how both of your irresponsibilities should count against the design of the systems.  If your console is in that kind of "danger", so to speak,  than move it to a place where it cant happen.  Problem solved again.



d21lewis on 01 September 2010

Not a bad comparison.  Nothing anybody on this forum didn't already know, as far as features and such were concerned.  I game on a phat PS3 and a phat 360 and this comparison makes me want to upgrade BOTH of them--even if it means I'd lose my PS2 compatibilty on my PS3.  There's still other little things like controller preference, peer pressure, power output, and Kinect vs. Move that may steer people in one direction or the other but, all in all, I enjoyed this prize fight.



ConnorJCP on 01 September 2010
slowmo said:
Branko2166 said:

Not a bad video. Only one score I disagree strongly with and that's in the graphics department.

Was kinda lolz worthy that 2 guys scored the graphics on the ps3 and 360 equally. But I suppose it's opinion based ultimately.

 


Mulitplats generally are as good or better on 360, a handful of PS3 exclusives look better than anything on the 360.  When you weigh up the difference be thankful they gave the PS3 the same score as the vast majority of titles look as good or better on the 360.

i hate it when people say it balances out because some multi-plats, occasionally, look better on the 360,
thats like saying a country that won gold,silver,bronze in a Olympic game is overall about as good as a country that gets 3rd 4th and 5th.
its about the winners, not the failures.



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thranx on 01 September 2010
gekkokamen said:
thranx said:
gekkokamen said:
sergiodaly said:
thranx said:
sergiodaly said:

the games round have some thin reasons for the tie!

@thranks - Blu Ray is there... it does not matter if you want it or use it... the value is there so they must give the points for it! your personal opinion and experience is irrelevant.


Just cause its theree does not mean it has value to gamers. For people who bought it to play games all it has done is increase price, not the value. It is not irrelevant, as it could be this way for many consumers. And it is especially relevant as this whole video was based off of three people opinion, not facts or anything like that, but opinion.

well i see it the other way around... the only fact is that is there and gives the machine more value (GT5 fans will back me up on this for sure), if you like or dislike, that is opinion! and value is about real thing available to us... but lets not get into a fight about it... like you say in your first post "for me at least" you don't see the value and i get that you are free to have opinions but the only thing i was pointing out is that personal opinions and experiences aren't relevant in the matter, that,  you have one and i other...

well, now that MS and Sony are really sticking to their 10-year plan or whatever, the storage capacity advantage of blu-ray becomes even more relevant. Besides who said it doesn't have value? I've playing games on my PS3 that just wouldn't be possible or the same on 1 DVD or multiple discs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, the list goes on and everybody not an ignorant knows this. I will be enjoying my Gran Turismo 5 in one blu-ray thank you very much. Oh, and even "lesser" multiplat games enjoy much superior less compressed and TRULY HD CG VIDEOS on the PS3 versions. Like Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, that list is quite long, and I do appreciate video quality on my 70" screen not those pixelated-compressed 360 videos yuck....I guess you can't appreciate value on a crappy screen playing crappy games, but I'm nobody to judge....

Seeing as there better games graphics wise on the pc and they require no blu ray, I tend to not give it credit for graphics. They could achieve the same results by using multiple discs with installs, since all ps3's have a harddrive.

great alternative! turn PS3 gaming into the absolute tedium it is playing on PC. PS3 games coming on multiple dvds and you need to install large chunks of data on your hard drive...maybe for you, not for me. Thank God for both blu-ray and large non-propietary HDD by the way.

You mine like for these games?

  1. Assassin's Creed [1.3]
  2. Alone in the Dark - Inferno [3.78]
  3. Burnout Paradise [.4] (~400 MegaBytes)
  4. Battlefield BC [.4]
  5. Bio Shock [5]
  6. Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway [2]
  7. Civilization Revolution [.65] (~ 665.6 MegaBytes)
  8. Conan [.67]
  9. Devil May Cry 4 [4.83]
  10. Dark Sector [1.2]
  11. Eye of Judgement [1.9]
  12. Enemy Territory: Quake Wars [4.2]
  13. Fallout 3 [5]
  14. Far Cry 2 [3.5]
  15. Fight Night Round 4 [1.3]
  16. Fear [2.5]
  17. Fracture [2]
  18. GTA IV [3.3]
  19. GT5 Prologue [5.24]
  20. Ghostbusters [4]
  21. Haze [3.82]
  22. Hawx [4]
  23. Hot Shots Golf 5 [3.61]
  24. Heavenly Sword [2.1]
  25. Infamous [1.3]
  26. Little Big Planet [.6]
  27. Legendary [4.5]
  28. Lost Planet: Extreme Condition [4.9]
  29. Lost: Via Domus [3]
  30. Medal Of Honor: Airborne [1.95]
  31. Mercenaries 2: World in Flames [2.7]
  32. Mirror's Edge [.55]
  33. MLB The Show 09 [2.5]
  34. Mortal Kombat VS DC [1.1]
  35. MLB 08 The Show [2]
  36. Metal Gear Solid 4 [4]
  37. Nascar 09 [.12]
  38. NBA 09 The Inside [2.8]
  39. Need for Speed Undercover [1]
  40. Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm [4]
  41. Oblivion GOTY [5]
  42. Orange Box
  43. Oblivion GOTY
  44. Overload Raising Hell [3.33]
  45. Prototype [.65]
  46. Ratchet & Clank Future [.42]
  47. Resistance: Fall of Man [.22]
  48. Resistance 2 [.4]
  49. Rainbow Six Vegas 2 [3]
  50. Ridge Racer 7 [5]
  51. Saints Row 2 [3.8]
  52. Spiderman 3 [2.6]
  53. Skate [2.6]
  54. Shaun White Snowboarding [1]
  55. Soul Calibur IV [2.6]
  56. Spider-Man: Web of Shadows [2]
  57. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed [2.7]
  58. Street Fighter IV [2.1]
  59. Socom Confrontation [2.7]
  60. TNA Impact! [4.75]
  61. Top Spin 3 [3.6]
  62. Timeshift [1.02]
  63. Turning Point: Fall of Liberty [2.52]
  64. The Bourne Conspiracy [4.7]
  65. Tom Clancy's End War [5]
  66. Warhawk w/boosters [5]
  67. Warhawk w/o boosters [1.25]
  68. WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw 2008 [2.4]
  69. WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 [3.2]


gekkokamen on 01 September 2010
thranx said:
gekkokamen said:
thranx said:
gekkokamen said:
sergiodaly said:
thranx said:
sergiodaly said:

the games round have some thin reasons for the tie!

@thranks - Blu Ray is there... it does not matter if you want it or use it... the value is there so they must give the points for it! your personal opinion and experience is irrelevant.


Just cause its theree does not mean it has value to gamers. For people who bought it to play games all it has done is increase price, not the value. It is not irrelevant, as it could be this way for many consumers. And it is especially relevant as this whole video was based off of three people opinion, not facts or anything like that, but opinion.

well i see it the other way around... the only fact is that is there and gives the machine more value (GT5 fans will back me up on this for sure), if you like or dislike, that is opinion! and value is about real thing available to us... but lets not get into a fight about it... like you say in your first post "for me at least" you don't see the value and i get that you are free to have opinions but the only thing i was pointing out is that personal opinions and experiences aren't relevant in the matter, that,  you have one and i other...

well, now that MS and Sony are really sticking to their 10-year plan or whatever, the storage capacity advantage of blu-ray becomes even more relevant. Besides who said it doesn't have value? I've playing games on my PS3 that just wouldn't be possible or the same on 1 DVD or multiple discs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, the list goes on and everybody not an ignorant knows this. I will be enjoying my Gran Turismo 5 in one blu-ray thank you very much. Oh, and even "lesser" multiplat games enjoy much superior less compressed and TRULY HD CG VIDEOS on the PS3 versions. Like Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, that list is quite long, and I do appreciate video quality on my 70" screen not those pixelated-compressed 360 videos yuck....I guess you can't appreciate value on a crappy screen playing crappy games, but I'm nobody to judge....

Seeing as there better games graphics wise on the pc and they require no blu ray, I tend to not give it credit for graphics. They could achieve the same results by using multiple discs with installs, since all ps3's have a harddrive.

great alternative! turn PS3 gaming into the absolute tedium it is playing on PC. PS3 games coming on multiple dvds and you need to install large chunks of data on your hard drive...maybe for you, not for me. Thank God for both blu-ray and large non-propietary HDD by the way.

You mine like for these games?

  • Assassin's Creed [1.3]
  • Alone in the Dark - Inferno [3.78]
  • Burnout Paradise [.4] (~400 MegaBytes)
  • Battlefield BC [.4]
  • Bio Shock [5]
  • Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway [2]
  • Civilization Revolution [.65] (~ 665.6 MegaBytes)
  • Conan [.67]
  • Devil May Cry 4 [4.83]
  • Dark Sector [1.2]
  • Eye of Judgement [1.9]
  • Enemy Territory: Quake Wars [4.2]
  • Fallout 3 [5]
  • Far Cry 2 [3.5]
  • Fight Night Round 4 [1.3]
  • Fear [2.5]
  • Fracture [2]
  • GTA IV [3.3]
  • GT5 Prologue [5.24]
  • Ghostbusters [4]
  • Haze [3.82]
  • Hawx [4]
  • Hot Shots Golf 5 [3.61]
  • Heavenly Sword [2.1]
  • Infamous [1.3]
  • Little Big Planet [.6]
  • Legendary [4.5]
  • Lost Planet: Extreme Condition [4.9]
  • Lost: Via Domus [3]
  • Medal Of Honor: Airborne [1.95]
  • Mercenaries 2: World in Flames [2.7]
  • Mirror's Edge [.55]
  • MLB The Show 09 [2.5]
  • Mortal Kombat VS DC [1.1]
  • MLB 08 The Show [2]
  • Metal Gear Solid 4 [4]
  • Nascar 09 [.12]
  • NBA 09 The Inside [2.8]
  • Need for Speed Undercover [1]
  • Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm [4]
  • Oblivion GOTY [5]
  • Orange Box
  • Oblivion GOTY
  • Overload Raising Hell [3.33]
  • Prototype [.65]
  • Ratchet & Clank Future [.42]
  • Resistance: Fall of Man [.22]
  • Resistance 2 [.4]
  • Rainbow Six Vegas 2 [3]
  • Ridge Racer 7 [5]
  • Saints Row 2 [3.8]
  • Spiderman 3 [2.6]
  • Skate [2.6]
  • Shaun White Snowboarding [1]
  • Soul Calibur IV [2.6]
  • Spider-Man: Web of Shadows [2]
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed [2.7]
  • Street Fighter IV [2.1]
  • Socom Confrontation [2.7]
  • TNA Impact! [4.75]
  • Top Spin 3 [3.6]
  • Timeshift [1.02]
  • Turning Point: Fall of Liberty [2.52]
  • The Bourne Conspiracy [4.7]
  • Tom Clancy's End War [5]
  • Warhawk w/boosters [5]
  • Warhawk w/o boosters [1.25]
  • WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw 2008 [2.4]
  • WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 [3.2]
    		•


    So, your point? you telling me all there is to PC gaming is installs? lol... dude just drop it, blu-ray owns your ass.



    thranx on 01 September 2010
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    sergiodaly said:
    thranx said:
    sergiodaly said:

    the games round have some thin reasons for the tie!

    @thranks - Blu Ray is there... it does not matter if you want it or use it... the value is there so they must give the points for it! your personal opinion and experience is irrelevant.


    Just cause its theree does not mean it has value to gamers. For people who bought it to play games all it has done is increase price, not the value. It is not irrelevant, as it could be this way for many consumers. And it is especially relevant as this whole video was based off of three people opinion, not facts or anything like that, but opinion.

    well i see it the other way around... the only fact is that is there and gives the machine more value (GT5 fans will back me up on this for sure), if you like or dislike, that is opinion! and value is about real thing available to us... but lets not get into a fight about it... like you say in your first post "for me at least" you don't see the value and i get that you are free to have opinions but the only thing i was pointing out is that personal opinions and experiences aren't relevant in the matter, that,  you have one and i other...

    well, now that MS and Sony are really sticking to their 10-year plan or whatever, the storage capacity advantage of blu-ray becomes even more relevant. Besides who said it doesn't have value? I've playing games on my PS3 that just wouldn't be possible or the same on 1 DVD or multiple discs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, the list goes on and everybody not an ignorant knows this. I will be enjoying my Gran Turismo 5 in one blu-ray thank you very much. Oh, and even "lesser" multiplat games enjoy much superior less compressed and TRULY HD CG VIDEOS on the PS3 versions. Like Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, that list is quite long, and I do appreciate video quality on my 70" screen not those pixelated-compressed 360 videos yuck....I guess you can't appreciate value on a crappy screen playing crappy games, but I'm nobody to judge....

    Seeing as there better games graphics wise on the pc and they require no blu ray, I tend to not give it credit for graphics. They could achieve the same results by using multiple discs with installs, since all ps3's have a harddrive.

    great alternative! turn PS3 gaming into the absolute tedium it is playing on PC. PS3 games coming on multiple dvds and you need to install large chunks of data on your hard drive...maybe for you, not for me. Thank God for both blu-ray and large non-propietary HDD by the way.

    You mine like for these games?

  • Assassin's Creed [1.3]
  • Alone in the Dark - Inferno [3.78]
  • Burnout Paradise [.4] (~400 MegaBytes)
  • Battlefield BC [.4]
  • Bio Shock [5]
  • Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway [2]
  • Civilization Revolution [.65] (~ 665.6 MegaBytes)
  • Conan [.67]
  • Devil May Cry 4 [4.83]
  • Dark Sector [1.2]
  • Eye of Judgement [1.9]
  • Enemy Territory: Quake Wars [4.2]
  • Fallout 3 [5]
  • Far Cry 2 [3.5]
  • Fight Night Round 4 [1.3]
  • Fear [2.5]
  • Fracture [2]
  • GTA IV [3.3]
  • GT5 Prologue [5.24]
  • Ghostbusters [4]
  • Haze [3.82]
  • Hawx [4]
  • Hot Shots Golf 5 [3.61]
  • Heavenly Sword [2.1]
  • Infamous [1.3]
  • Little Big Planet [.6]
  • Legendary [4.5]
  • Lost Planet: Extreme Condition [4.9]
  • Lost: Via Domus [3]
  • Medal Of Honor: Airborne [1.95]
  • Mercenaries 2: World in Flames [2.7]
  • Mirror's Edge [.55]
  • MLB The Show 09 [2.5]
  • Mortal Kombat VS DC [1.1]
  • MLB 08 The Show [2]
  • Metal Gear Solid 4 [4]
  • Nascar 09 [.12]
  • NBA 09 The Inside [2.8]
  • Need for Speed Undercover [1]
  • Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm [4]
  • Oblivion GOTY [5]
  • Orange Box
  • Oblivion GOTY
  • Overload Raising Hell [3.33]
  • Prototype [.65]
  • Ratchet & Clank Future [.42]
  • Resistance: Fall of Man [.22]
  • Resistance 2 [.4]
  • Rainbow Six Vegas 2 [3]
  • Ridge Racer 7 [5]
  • Saints Row 2 [3.8]
  • Spiderman 3 [2.6]
  • Skate [2.6]
  • Shaun White Snowboarding [1]
  • Soul Calibur IV [2.6]
  • Spider-Man: Web of Shadows [2]
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed [2.7]
  • Street Fighter IV [2.1]
  • Socom Confrontation [2.7]
  • TNA Impact! [4.75]
  • Top Spin 3 [3.6]
  • Timeshift [1.02]
  • Turning Point: Fall of Liberty [2.52]
  • The Bourne Conspiracy [4.7]
  • Tom Clancy's End War [5]
  • Warhawk w/boosters [5]
  • Warhawk w/o boosters [1.25]
  • WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw 2008 [2.4]
  • WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 [3.2]
    		•


    So, your point? you telling me all there is to PC gaming is installs? lol... dude just drop it, blu-ray owns your ass.

    My point was yopu said you don't want the ps3 turned into a pc with installs and here is a list of ps3 games that already require installs. So its back to blu ray is not needed for highend graphics like I said. All blu ray owned was ps3 profibility and market share.



    Shadowfest3 on 01 September 2010

    Good video imo.  Good to see that they attempted to keep things as close as possible.



    gekkokamen on 01 September 2010
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    sergiodaly said:
    thranx said:
    sergiodaly said:

    the games round have some thin reasons for the tie!

    @thranks - Blu Ray is there... it does not matter if you want it or use it... the value is there so they must give the points for it! your personal opinion and experience is irrelevant.


    Just cause its theree does not mean it has value to gamers. For people who bought it to play games all it has done is increase price, not the value. It is not irrelevant, as it could be this way for many consumers. And it is especially relevant as this whole video was based off of three people opinion, not facts or anything like that, but opinion.

    well i see it the other way around... the only fact is that is there and gives the machine more value (GT5 fans will back me up on this for sure), if you like or dislike, that is opinion! and value is about real thing available to us... but lets not get into a fight about it... like you say in your first post "for me at least" you don't see the value and i get that you are free to have opinions but the only thing i was pointing out is that personal opinions and experiences aren't relevant in the matter, that,  you have one and i other...

    well, now that MS and Sony are really sticking to their 10-year plan or whatever, the storage capacity advantage of blu-ray becomes even more relevant. Besides who said it doesn't have value? I've playing games on my PS3 that just wouldn't be possible or the same on 1 DVD or multiple discs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, the list goes on and everybody not an ignorant knows this. I will be enjoying my Gran Turismo 5 in one blu-ray thank you very much. Oh, and even "lesser" multiplat games enjoy much superior less compressed and TRULY HD CG VIDEOS on the PS3 versions. Like Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, that list is quite long, and I do appreciate video quality on my 70" screen not those pixelated-compressed 360 videos yuck....I guess you can't appreciate value on a crappy screen playing crappy games, but I'm nobody to judge....

    Seeing as there better games graphics wise on the pc and they require no blu ray, I tend to not give it credit for graphics. They could achieve the same results by using multiple discs with installs, since all ps3's have a harddrive.

    great alternative! turn PS3 gaming into the absolute tedium it is playing on PC. PS3 games coming on multiple dvds and you need to install large chunks of data on your hard drive...maybe for you, not for me. Thank God for both blu-ray and large non-propietary HDD by the way.

    You mine like for these games?

  • Assassin's Creed [1.3]
  • Alone in the Dark - Inferno [3.78]
  • Burnout Paradise [.4] (~400 MegaBytes)
  • Battlefield BC [.4]
  • Bio Shock [5]
  • Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway [2]
  • Civilization Revolution [.65] (~ 665.6 MegaBytes)
  • Conan [.67]
  • Devil May Cry 4 [4.83]
  • Dark Sector [1.2]
  • Eye of Judgement [1.9]
  • Enemy Territory: Quake Wars [4.2]
  • Fallout 3 [5]
  • Far Cry 2 [3.5]
  • Fight Night Round 4 [1.3]
  • Fear [2.5]
  • Fracture [2]
  • GTA IV [3.3]
  • GT5 Prologue [5.24]
  • Ghostbusters [4]
  • Haze [3.82]
  • Hawx [4]
  • Hot Shots Golf 5 [3.61]
  • Heavenly Sword [2.1]
  • Infamous [1.3]
  • Little Big Planet [.6]
  • Legendary [4.5]
  • Lost Planet: Extreme Condition [4.9]
  • Lost: Via Domus [3]
  • Medal Of Honor: Airborne [1.95]
  • Mercenaries 2: World in Flames [2.7]
  • Mirror's Edge [.55]
  • MLB The Show 09 [2.5]
  • Mortal Kombat VS DC [1.1]
  • MLB 08 The Show [2]
  • Metal Gear Solid 4 [4]
  • Nascar 09 [.12]
  • NBA 09 The Inside [2.8]
  • Need for Speed Undercover [1]
  • Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm [4]
  • Oblivion GOTY [5]
  • Orange Box
  • Oblivion GOTY
  • Overload Raising Hell [3.33]
  • Prototype [.65]
  • Ratchet & Clank Future [.42]
  • Resistance: Fall of Man [.22]
  • Resistance 2 [.4]
  • Rainbow Six Vegas 2 [3]
  • Ridge Racer 7 [5]
  • Saints Row 2 [3.8]
  • Spiderman 3 [2.6]
  • Skate [2.6]
  • Shaun White Snowboarding [1]
  • Soul Calibur IV [2.6]
  • Spider-Man: Web of Shadows [2]
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed [2.7]
  • Street Fighter IV [2.1]
  • Socom Confrontation [2.7]
  • TNA Impact! [4.75]
  • Top Spin 3 [3.6]
  • Timeshift [1.02]
  • Turning Point: Fall of Liberty [2.52]
  • The Bourne Conspiracy [4.7]
  • Tom Clancy's End War [5]
  • Warhawk w/boosters [5]
  • Warhawk w/o boosters [1.25]
  • WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw 2008 [2.4]
  • WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 [3.2]
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    So, your point? you telling me all there is to PC gaming is installs? lol... dude just drop it, blu-ray owns your ass.

    My point was yopu said you don't want the ps3 turned into a pc with installs and here is a list of ps3 games that already require installs. So its back to blu ray is not needed for highend graphics like I said. All blu ray owned was ps3 profibility and market share.

    I guess DVDs weren't needed either, but it happened. I'm sure last gen could've survived on CDs alone, right?