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MonstaMack said:

Chances of it coming here are real small. Look at the Wii sales for the last one brought here, hell the PS2 doubled the sales (then again didn't the Wii version only have English VO? and thats why it bombed?)

That's part of it; the Wii version, priced at $30, was essentially a bare-bones release- the game on 1 disk with the English VAs only. The PS2 version, while $40, came with 2 disks- one with the English VAs, another with the Japanese VAs and subtitles, and then came with extras like an artbook, poster, a guidebook (more of a spoof item) and deluxe packaging. Given that many fans of a series, especially a niche one, want the extra stuff, it would drive them to the PS2 version. We got that version here ourselves, even though we'd have preferred to get it on the Wii.



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Mr.Metralha said:

Is this a 10M seller?


Yes.



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Kynes said:
superchunk said:
Kynes said:
superchunk said:

What is Sakura Taisen?


Sakura wars


What is Sakura Wars?

It's a strange mix of a SRPG and a date simulator, but it works.

Oh, so you have sex with the girls to get power to fight?



I really hope this is true!




Galaki said:
Kynes said:
superchunk said:
Kynes said:
superchunk said:

What is Sakura Taisen?


Sakura wars


What is Sakura Wars?

It's a strange mix of a SRPG and a date simulator, but it works.

Oh, so you have sex with the girls to get power to fight?


You're confusing Dating Sim with Hentai. This is closer to the Visual Novel variety.



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Galaki said:
Kynes said:
superchunk said:
Kynes said:
superchunk said:

What is Sakura Taisen?


Sakura wars


What is Sakura Wars?

It's a strange mix of a SRPG and a date simulator, but it works.

Oh, so you have sex with the girls to get power to fight?


No really, but you have to build relations with the girls and get them in mood to fight.

My sig is taken from Sakura Wars (Sakura Taisen V) and you can stare at the girls chest and stuff but it doesn't get overly naughty.



Soriku said:

Wait, people are still using that old and dumb MH argument with the PSP ones selling better than MH3? lol.

Btw it seems like this is fake.


So fake it hurts. lol.

 

To whoever said it, Sakura Taisen isn't exactly niche in Japan.  Or least wasn't, on Saturn the games sold around half a million each and even on DC they still sold around 300k.  Things have been downhill since ST2 admittedly though,and ST5 basically bombed on PS2 (just ~150k iirc). :/

The current rumor is that Sega's going to release the Wii version of ST5 in Japan this fall, but I wouldn't expect much.  Like 50k tops, it's a barebones port and years too late.



LordTheNightKnight said:

"So angry for no reason... 

The Wii is no more likely to sell a niche title than the Xbox360 or PS3"

 

How is calling on your logic anger? That seems to be just trying to dismiss a comment you can't counter, especially since I did not claim the Wii sold niche titles better. You claimed that niche titles selling niche numbers on the Wii was somehow just a problem with that system.

"Angry" because of the way in which you responded, essentially dismissing my post outright.

Anyway...

You said that "niche titles are more likely to sell on the Wii to make a profit," and I did counter that with a fairly detailed explanation.  That statement is pretty vague and had nothing supporting it.  Therefore, I the only thing I can imagine you referring to is that the Wii has higher sales and, generally, lower production costs.  Neither of these really make the idea that niche titles will sell better on the Wii (or sell profitably) true. 

I didn't claim that niche titles selling niche numbers on the Wii was a problem.  You must have imagined that when you didn't read my response.  I don't expect niche titles to sell better than niche numbers.  Take Sin & Punishment--I didn't expect this thing to sell a lot.  I pointed out how there's no guarantee that niche titles will sell better on the Wii, and (I'm sorry I didn't elaborate more on this before) therefore, there's no guarantee they're more profitable.  Having lower production costs on the Wii doesn't really matter when the sales tend to be lower than they would be on the HD consoles.  Again, Onechanbara.  I'm sure differences between development costs between the Xbox360 and Wii versions were minimal at best, and it sold better on the Xbox360, and for a higher price (as I recall).  Niche titles have a better chance of being more profitable, and having higher sales, on the systems where 3rd party games in general tend to sell better.

The things that, unfortunately even after almost four years, still sell the best on the Wii (or DS) are Nintendo titles and "casual" fare.  Niche titles tend to fall into hardcore categories because, let's face it, targeting them towards the people who read about this stuff all the time is the only way some of these things garner any sales at all.  And hardcore titles sell better on the HD systems.  Again, look at Haze versus The Conduit.  Haze garnered much lower reviews than Conduit, but Haze still sold better than The Conduit.  Hardcore and niche titles--better to hedge those bets on the Xbox360 or PS3.  Nintendo, family, and casual games--those bets are better hedged on the Wii or DS.  This is the way the industry is viewed, and this is the way games, generally, sell.

Granted, there are always the exceptions--like Manhunt 2 sold comparably well on the Wii as it did on the PS2.  Figure that one out.



I think you're either overestimating how hardcore ST is, or you're simply conflating niche with hardcore.  Simply because there is not a large audience for the game does not mean it would perform better on another system.  If ST players can be considered hardcore it's only in the sense that they will buy the game no matter what system it is on because they enjoiy the series that much.  It's certainly not hardcore in the sense that we refer to games like Halo and Resident Evil as hardcore.



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