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ironman on 01 September 2010
Alby_da_Wolf said:
ironman said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
ironman said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I kind of wished microsoft introduced another type of membership. I wish they had membership just for playing online and party chat for like $30-$40. Because honestly i dont care about last.fm (have an ipod), facebook (have a computer), twitter (have a computer), and ESPN (have cable). With all of these useless services thay should have introduced a platinum membership for $60 for people who actually use these services.


Wait, do XBL users PAY for Facebook??? So are they the origin of false rumours and chain letters about Facebook becoming a pay service?   :-S  :-@ 


No, facebook was added to the XBL experiance. The price of XBL did not go up to compensate for the add on, so basically it is free.

So if it was added for free, it's available also with Silver accounts.


Did you not read a word I wrote? Here, let me put it a differant way so you can hopefully understand. Facebook was an add-on that did not cost Gold users any more money than before, therefore it is NOT a pay service, if it was, the price of Gold would have gone up at launch to compensate.

 

 

Squilliam said:

Gamer butts have been found to be very accommodating. Im sure they can fit a few more inches at least...

I simply MUST quote you on this, good sir!!!

My concept of "free" is "not paying for it", sorry if I'm too fussy about it...


But you are not paying for it. You never did pay for it, it is a FREE service to Gold members. If it wasn't FREE, then Gold would have gone up.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 01 September 2010
ironman said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
ironman said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
ironman said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I kind of wished microsoft introduced another type of membership. I wish they had membership just for playing online and party chat for like $30-$40. Because honestly i dont care about last.fm (have an ipod), facebook (have a computer), twitter (have a computer), and ESPN (have cable). With all of these useless services thay should have introduced a platinum membership for $60 for people who actually use these services.


Wait, do XBL users PAY for Facebook??? So are they the origin of false rumours and chain letters about Facebook becoming a pay service?   :-S  :-@ 


No, facebook was added to the XBL experiance. The price of XBL did not go up to compensate for the add on, so basically it is free.

So if it was added for free, it's available also with Silver accounts.


Did you not read a word I wrote? Here, let me put it a differant way so you can hopefully understand. Facebook was an add-on that did not cost Gold users any more money than before, therefore it is NOT a pay service, if it was, the price of Gold would have gone up at launch to compensate.

 

 

Squilliam said:

Gamer butts have been found to be very accommodating. Im sure they can fit a few more inches at least...

I simply MUST quote you on this, good sir!!!

My concept of "free" is "not paying for it", sorry if I'm too fussy about it...


But you are not paying for it. You never did pay for it, it is a FREE service to Gold members. If it wasn't FREE, then Gold would have gone up.

OK, you are joking, I fell for it...   



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Mr Puggsly on 01 September 2010
shio said:

2003

Valve: Hey Microsoft, wanna partner with us to make a service that could put PC Gaming over the top?

Microsoft: No, your idea is 10 years too soon. We don't want to have anything with you guys.

Valve: You are losing a great opportunity.

Microsoft: Whatever, we are going to consoles. We aren't focused on PC games.

2006

Microsoft: How's business?

Valve: Steam is all over. And you guys said it couldn't be done.

Microsoft: But aren't you giving Steam for free?

Valve: Yeah, which is why getting million of new costumers.

Microsoft: Whatever, PC games don't sell. Consoles are where the money's at.

Valve: But didn't you lose billions with the Xbox?!

Microsoft: Yes, but our idea was to win the console industry with the Xbox 360, not the original Xbox.

2007

Microsoft: Hey Valve, I'm launching GFWL! It will be a stronghold for PC gaming.

Valve: Cool, but what is GFWL?

Microsoft: It's like Xbox Live for PC, and you to pay to use it too.

Valve: What the hell?! PC Gamers won't pay for GFWL ever!

Microsoft: Whatever, we forced millions of console gamers to pay for nothing, PC gamers will too.

Valve: It won't work. PC gamers can't be forced to use GFWL.

Microsoft: We'll win, many big publishers  are already supporting us.

2009

Valve: So how's GFWL?

Microsoft: Badly. No one paid for it, so we had to make GFWL free.

Valve: I told you.

Microsoft: Whatever, PC Gaming is dying. We're closing down all our PC studios.

Valve: WTF?! That's insane! You'll regret this.

Microsoft: PC Gaming is dying, and the money's on consoles.

Valve: You should stop reading NPD numbers...

2010

Microsoft: *reads PR statement* "PC Gaming is important to us. We are always committed to PC Gaming"

Valve: Huh?!

Microsoft: We are coming back in full force to PC Gaming! We are releasing new games on PC, and GFWL will be a stronghold for PC Gaming.

Valve: I've heard this before. Have you even released anything in the past 3 years on PC?

Microsoft: No, "but we are committed..."

Valve: Dude, look:
- You lost billions with the original Xbox.
- You are losing billions with the Xbox 360, and are nowhere near the Wii.
- You closed all your PC studios.
- GFWL hasn't improved since launch and is still complete crap.
- All publishers that supported GFWL have abandoned you, and came over to Steam instead.
- You haven't released a PC game for years, and won't release before 2011 (if at all).

Microsoft: We thought PC Gaming was dying...

Valve: PC was the only platform to grow in 2009, and 2010 so far. It has always been growing. It was your fault for only reading NPD, and now Steam is so big that we are on MAC now. HAHAHAHA!!!!

Microsoft: You showed us Valve. PC gaming now dominates the gaming industry!

Valve: Haha! Yeah right, people don't buy PC games. Worst of all, the most popular PC games don't even come to Steam.

Microsoft: SAY WHAT!!! You mean you don't get any of that World of Warcraft, The Sims, or Stracraft money?

Valve: Not a fucking penny!

Microsoft: PC gaming is growing... but its just bullcrap like Farmgames, casual crap, and MMOs.

Valve: Yeah pretty much. So how is GFWL going?

Microsoft: Shitty ofcourse, its PC gaming. How else could it go?

Valve: You know, we should have got together and made video cards. Every video card sold just goes to pirated games anyway.

Microsoft: True dat!



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ironman on 01 September 2010
Alby_da_Wolf said:
ironman said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
ironman said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
ironman said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

I kind of wished microsoft introduced another type of membership. I wish they had membership just for playing online and party chat for like $30-$40. Because honestly i dont care about last.fm (have an ipod), facebook (have a computer), twitter (have a computer), and ESPN (have cable). With all of these useless services thay should have introduced a platinum membership for $60 for people who actually use these services.


Wait, do XBL users PAY for Facebook??? So are they the origin of false rumours and chain letters about Facebook becoming a pay service?   :-S  :-@ 


No, facebook was added to the XBL experiance. The price of XBL did not go up to compensate for the add on, so basically it is free.

So if it was added for free, it's available also with Silver accounts.


Did you not read a word I wrote? Here, let me put it a differant way so you can hopefully understand. Facebook was an add-on that did not cost Gold users any more money than before, therefore it is NOT a pay service, if it was, the price of Gold would have gone up at launch to compensate.

 

 

Squilliam said:

Gamer butts have been found to be very accommodating. Im sure they can fit a few more inches at least...

I simply MUST quote you on this, good sir!!!

My concept of "free" is "not paying for it", sorry if I'm too fussy about it...


But you are not paying for it. You never did pay for it, it is a FREE service to Gold members. If it wasn't FREE, then Gold would have gone up.

OK, you are joking, I fell for it...   


XD good one, but no, I'm not. Now, I suggest you go look up the definition of the word "Free".



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NJ5 on 01 September 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
shio said:

2003

Valve: Hey Microsoft, wanna partner with us to make a service that could put PC Gaming over the top?

Microsoft: No, your idea is 10 years too soon. We don't want to have anything with you guys.

Valve: You are losing a great opportunity.

Microsoft: Whatever, we are going to consoles. We aren't focused on PC games.

2006

Microsoft: How's business?

Valve: Steam is all over. And you guys said it couldn't be done.

Microsoft: But aren't you giving Steam for free?

Valve: Yeah, which is why getting million of new costumers.

Microsoft: Whatever, PC games don't sell. Consoles are where the money's at.

Valve: But didn't you lose billions with the Xbox?!

Microsoft: Yes, but our idea was to win the console industry with the Xbox 360, not the original Xbox.

2007

Microsoft: Hey Valve, I'm launching GFWL! It will be a stronghold for PC gaming.

Valve: Cool, but what is GFWL?

Microsoft: It's like Xbox Live for PC, and you to pay to use it too.

Valve: What the hell?! PC Gamers won't pay for GFWL ever!

Microsoft: Whatever, we forced millions of console gamers to pay for nothing, PC gamers will too.

Valve: It won't work. PC gamers can't be forced to use GFWL.

Microsoft: We'll win, many big publishers  are already supporting us.

2009

Valve: So how's GFWL?

Microsoft: Badly. No one paid for it, so we had to make GFWL free.

Valve: I told you.

Microsoft: Whatever, PC Gaming is dying. We're closing down all our PC studios.

Valve: WTF?! That's insane! You'll regret this.

Microsoft: PC Gaming is dying, and the money's on consoles.

Valve: You should stop reading NPD numbers...

2010

Microsoft: *reads PR statement* "PC Gaming is important to us. We are always committed to PC Gaming"

Valve: Huh?!

Microsoft: We are coming back in full force to PC Gaming! We are releasing new games on PC, and GFWL will be a stronghold for PC Gaming.

Valve: I've heard this before. Have you even released anything in the past 3 years on PC?

Microsoft: No, "but we are committed..."

Valve: Dude, look:
- You lost billions with the original Xbox.
- You are losing billions with the Xbox 360, and are nowhere near the Wii.
- You closed all your PC studios.
- GFWL hasn't improved since launch and is still complete crap.
- All publishers that supported GFWL have abandoned you, and came over to Steam instead.
- You haven't released a PC game for years, and won't release before 2011 (if at all).

Microsoft: We thought PC Gaming was dying...

Valve: PC was the only platform to grow in 2009, and 2010 so far. It has always been growing. It was your fault for only reading NPD, and now Steam is so big that we are on MAC now. HAHAHAHA!!!!

Microsoft: You showed us Valve. PC gaming now dominates the gaming industry!

Valve: Haha! Yeah right, people don't buy PC games. Worst of all, the most popular PC games don't even come to Steam.

Microsoft: SAY WHAT!!! You mean you don't get any of that World of Warcraft, The Sims, or Stracraft money?

Valve: Not a fucking penny!

Microsoft: PC gaming is growing... but its just bullcrap like Farmgames, casual crap, and MMOs.

Valve: Yeah pretty much. So how is GFWL going?

Microsoft: Shitty ofcourse, its PC gaming. How else could it go?

Valve: You know, we should have got together and made video cards. Every video card sold just goes to pirated games anyway.

Microsoft: True dat!


Valve: We've been profiting since like, forever. Didn't you lose billions of dollars in the console business?

Microsoft: ....



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Mr Puggsly on 01 September 2010
NJ5 said:


Valve: We've been profiting since like, forever. Didn't you lose billions of dollars in the console business?

Microsoft: ....

Microsoft: Could you make money not depending on MS products?

Valve: ...

Microsoft: Your welcome. MS didn't become what it is depending on video games.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 01 September 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
NJ5 said:


Valve: We've been profiting since like, forever. Didn't you lose billions of dollars in the console business?

Microsoft: ....

Microsoft: Could you make money not depending on MS products?

Valve: ...

This is a question whose MS really doesn't want to know the answer...



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Mr Puggsly on 01 September 2010
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Mr Puggsly said:
NJ5 said:


Valve: We've been profiting since like, forever. Didn't you lose billions of dollars in the console business?

Microsoft: ....

Microsoft: Could you make money not depending on MS products?

Valve: ...

This is a question whose MS really doesn't want to know the answer...

Right, Windows and 360 haven't been the bread and butter of Valve.



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River City: Rival Showdown for 3DS (3/5) - River City: Tokyo Rumble for 3DS (4/5) - Zelda: BotW for Wii U (5/5) - Zelda: BotW for Switch (5/5) - Zelda: Link's Awakening for Switch (4/5) - Rage 2 for X1X (4/5) - Rage for 360 (3/5) - Streets of Rage 4 for X1/PC (4/5) - Gears 5 for X1X (5/5) - Mortal Kombat 11 for X1X (5/5) - Doom 64 for N64 (emulator) (3/5) - Crackdown 3 for X1S/X1X (4/5) - Infinity Blade III - for iPad 4 (3/5) - Infinity Blade II - for iPad 4 (4/5) - Infinity Blade - for iPad 4 (4/5) - Wolfenstein: The Old Blood for X1 (3/5) - Assassin's Creed: Origins for X1 (3/5) - Uncharted: Lost Legacy for PS4 (4/5) - EA UFC 3 for X1 (4/5) - Doom for X1 (4/5) - Titanfall 2 for X1 (4/5) - Super Mario 3D World for Wii U (4/5) - South Park: The Stick of Truth for X1 BC (4/5) - Call of Duty: WWII for X1 (4/5) -Wolfenstein II for X1 - (4/5) - Dead or Alive: Dimensions for 3DS (4/5) - Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite for X1 (3/5) - Halo Wars 2 for X1/PC (4/5) - Halo Wars: DE for X1 (4/5) - Tekken 7 for X1 (4/5) - Injustice 2 for X1 (4/5) - Yakuza 5 for PS3 (3/5) - Battlefield 1 (Campaign) for X1 (3/5) - Assassin's Creed: Syndicate for X1 (4/5) - Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare for X1 (4/5) - Call of Duty: MW Remastered for X1 (4/5) - Donkey Kong Country Returns for 3DS (4/5) - Forza Horizon 3 for X1 (5/5)

NJ5 on 01 September 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
NJ5 said:


Valve: We've been profiting since like, forever. Didn't you lose billions of dollars in the console business?

Microsoft: ....

Microsoft: Could you make money not depending on MS products?

Valve: ...

Microsoft: Your welcome. MS didn't become what it is depending on video games.

Of course Valve could make money if Windows didn't exist. They would simply make their games for whatever OS was most famous.



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Mr Puggsly on 01 September 2010
NJ5 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
NJ5 said:


Valve: We've been profiting since like, forever. Didn't you lose billions of dollars in the console business?

Microsoft: ....

Microsoft: Could you make money not depending on MS products?

Valve: ...

Microsoft: Your welcome. MS didn't become what it is depending on video games.

Of course Valve could make money if Windows didn't exist. They would simply make their games for whatever OS was most famous.

No, I said could they make money NOT depending on MS. I didn't create a scenario where Windows doesn't exist.

MS brought the audience, Valve depends on it.



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