Hey, I'm not even even debating if this makes sense with the character or not. But nothing of what you said helps support the notion that the game's sexist, and that's what I'm arguing about.

Also, she was kind of paralized on Super Metroid before that metroid saves her, no? :P

If Ridley had used some kind of stun ray here, I think a lot of the controversy would have been settled.

Ha, true :)

Details :P

BTW, I'm not against this direction, just the execution. Giving her fewer words, no freakouts, and overall using less-is-more approaches, could have pleased both those for and against this game.

Now this is true. Not necessarilly to say Sakamoto made a mistake by not doing that, but it sure would get a lot less hate.

The "less is more" approach has always worked best for a character like Samus.

After playing through the first hour of Other M, it really does feel like the makers basically turned back the clock and rewrote the character.

Not that it takes away from the game, but if I were a stickler for this kind of thing, I don't know if I'd consider this Samus to be "canon."

Just offhand, why is she so small? She looks about 5'5, 5'6" 115 lbs tops in the flashback cut scenes when Samus has been described as 6'3", 198 lbs since Super Metroid thanks to her Chozo DNA. Basically, she's an Amazon. Physically imposing even without her Chozo armor.

So was she in the Galactic Federation Police before she finished Chozo puberty? Grew about a foot and 80 lbs of sinew, bone and muscle after she left?

The crux of her having this chip on her shoulder had to do with her being female, smaller, weaker, etc. but based on the Samus fleshed out from the original games, she should have been among the biggest, probably the strongest (Alien DNA!) member on the team. It just doesn't mesh, but whatever; every designer is free to take creative liberties to an extent.

Wait, she really acted like that because she was a woman, not just because that was her older personality?

I'm saying her being a woman would have had little or no bearing on her status on a direct action type paramilitary team if she was the Amazonian/Alien hybrid she was in the original Metroid games, which she's been since childhood due to being infused with Chozo DNA to make her tougher (and more believable as a one-woman army who does the impossible).

Anyway, the characterization for Samus in Other M just wouldn't have worked if she was a towering woman when she was a member of the Galactic police. In order to make her seem emotionally vulnerable, they literally made her look physically vulnerable too, which is taking a big liberty with a well-established character.

Okay I think the topic has just run its course cause it just won't die, we have an official thread for discussion, I really didn't think anyone would be foolish enough to continue this thread let alone listen to this woman, but to each their own.

~locking~

The original (and still commonly used) definition of Sue/Stu is "Author/Audience Avatar" and was coined by a fanzine's editor as a slam against all the over-idealized characters in Star Trek fanfiction that lacked noteworthy flaws as they were a proxy for the author. For video games this would be "player avatar" as you can't really have flaws when you have no character which is what proxies like Crono, Darth Revan, and Commander Shepard are. Their whole point is that THEY are supposed to be YOU. FACT