It's as if you made this thread knowing you'd get flamed and then ran away when you couldn't stand the heat. I'm not saying you aren't entitled to your opinion, but you have made similar topics before and took off then too. What's the sense in making a topic and not have the ability to keep up with it's participants questions/discussions/curiosities?

To me, both "Kinect will fail/Move will fail" topics are redundant and old. Let these things get a chance to even come out. Hasn't anybody learned their lesson with regards to pre-Wii days?

What the hell?!

Do I have to say I am sorry for being at my grandmas birthday and not being on VGC to respond to some people?

I will answer as soon as I can. It is 7:30 am right now and at 8 am I will get my new bedroom, so I have to disconnect my Internet connection.

And please link me where I started 'Flame topics' (This one wasn't even meant to be, people are way to sensitive),

@Slimebeast

you said: "I am not writing this out of fanboyism. There's no damage control or hidden agendas. It's just obvious reading comments from console fans, when you read between the lines. Deep within us we all (the majority) know that Kinect will be a success while we're very sceptical about Move."

How you come up with those conclusions??? Who is "us" (the xbox fans?), the majority?? (within xbox fans you mean?)

Where do you base your thoughts?

What the hell?!

Do I have to say I am sorry for being at my grandmas birthday and not being on VGC to respond to some people?

I will answer as soon as I can. It is 7:30 am right now and at 8 am I will get my new bedroom, so I have to disconnect my Internet connection.

And please link me where I started 'Flame topics' (This one wasn't even meant to be, people are way to sensitive),

This whole post is of course IMO.

First of all Move is not that big of an innovation. Sony decided to play it safe and copy the Wiimote. Sure it is more precise, but the overall experience is not that different. Check the picture in my sig. Copying the Wii is not a bad thing anyway. It clearly outsold its competitors, so why not do what the cool guy does.

Sony is doing a big mistake with the games for the move. They are making hardcore titles move compatible. Did anyone actually ask for this? When you played Killzone 2, did you say to yourself 'Damn, I would love to play this with a device similar to the Wiimote'?

Killzone 2 players are a very hardcore audience. They play the game with the regular controller anyway. Casual players that might like the Wii don't want to play a game like Killzone 2. The same goes for Socom IV. Core titles like madworld, Conduit and others proofed that the Wii and its controlls is not the best for FPS or different core titles. It surely has its strengths in different areas and some crazy sales for some games proof that.

Sony needs to make software that is perfect for the hardware. They created a more casual device but make core-titles for it. You can say, they made the same mistake with the PSP. Outside of Japan, the PSP is not that relevant these days. Sony made and secured core titles for a handheld a lot of people wanted to play on big screen. God of War, Metal gear solid peace Walker are two perfect examples. Great games, no doubt, but they just work better on the big screen. Nintendo on the other hand did the right software for the hardware. Ninetndogs, Pokemon, Scribblenauts, Mario Kart, Brain Training work very well on a handheld, because you can play for 5 minutes, have fun, turn the device off and keep doing what you did before.

MS developed Kinect and made Casual games for it. Kinect is a casual device, and they deliver the software for it. There is nothing wrong with that. So far, Kinect is not my most wanted device ever, because I am a core gamer, but I see the potential and might pick it up as soon as core games are available. I will pick one up for my mother though. She wants to use Video on Demand and maybe she will play some titles like Yourshape or Kinect Adventures, too.

So saying Move is more a hardcore, so it will have more legs, sell more or whatever is actually not a good thing. Motion Controlls are very social and very casual, a Killzone 3 is not a game that works this way. Core player will prefer the controller (or keyboard / mouse) any day. Sony just failed to deliver the perfect software for the hardware. Nintendo and so far MS did.