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Hero_time88 on 20 August 2010

Is it just me or doesn´t M$ want Xbox 360 gamers to interact with PS3 gamers?



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darthdevidem01 on 20 August 2010

Jarrod FFXIV will destory MH3 sales worldwide, look at the PC pre-orders at the moment, they are surprisingly strong.

Either way its set to be S-E's most profitable game this generation

After all FFXI still made $100 Million in 2009

And there will be a 360 release eventually



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Mr Puggsly on 20 August 2010
Hero_time88 said:

Is it just me or doesn´t M$ want Xbox 360 gamers to interact with PS3 gamers?


I dunno. Didn't FFXI allow 360 and PS2 players on the same server?

Perhaps MS doesn't want to do that again.



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Icyedge on 20 August 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Hero_time88 said:

Is it just me or doesn´t M$ want Xbox 360 gamers to interact with PS3 gamers?


I dunno. Didn't FFXI allow 360 and PS2 players on the same server?

Perhaps MS doesn't want to do that again.

Yes your right, it was allowed for FFXI.



Mr Puggsly on 20 August 2010
Icyedge said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Hero_time88 said:

Is it just me or doesn´t M$ want Xbox 360 gamers to interact with PS3 gamers?


I dunno. Didn't FFXI allow 360 and PS2 players on the same server?

Perhaps MS doesn't want to do that again.

Yes your right, it was allowed for FFXI.

Well considering they did it before its odd they are willing to let a game like this pass up the 360.

Perhaps there is more to this than we really know?



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Icyedge on 20 August 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Icyedge said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Hero_time88 said:

Is it just me or doesn´t M$ want Xbox 360 gamers to interact with PS3 gamers?


I dunno. Didn't FFXI allow 360 and PS2 players on the same server?

Perhaps MS doesn't want to do that again.

Yes your right, it was allowed for FFXI.

Well considering they did it before its odd they are willing to let a game like this pass up the 360.

Perhaps there is more to this than we really know?

I agree, its odd. I dont understand what is the problem.



Solid_Snake4RD on 20 August 2010
jarrod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:

Actually, MH's bigger at this point, at least in Japan.  MHFO already sold almost as much as FFXI PS2 in Japan too (125k to 150k), and FFXI was simultaneous PC/PS2, while MHFO came years later than the PC version.  MH3 is the best selling game in Japan to ever carry a subscription fee, and afaik it's actually the only Japanese developed subscription based game to ever sell over a million worldwide. 

Capcom saying they met expectations on something means they probably did.  They're not Sony, they don't have a track record of distortion like Sony, so that's not really relevant to anything.

MH is still small on consoles even in japan

but is that 125k-150k worth it for developing on 360

don't even compare to FF11 as we know that the online conditions were then and MHFO 360 wouldn't have cost as much as FF14 360 wold

track record of distortion by sony? - hater

hell capcom's expectations would be low and hence they would have met it.FF14 is a big title

 

just comparing those two is foolish

A million seller, and the best selling Japanese subscription based game in history, is small?  Do you expect FFXIV to sell over a million in Japan? ;)

And you're the one who brought up Sony's questionable self evaluations, for some inexplicable reason. - self loather

 

Comparing the two is more than appropriate.  Both are subscription based MMOs, only Capcom managed to get theirs on 360 and Square evidently can't...

i don't know what FF14 will sell but it will atleast do better than MHFO

I DIDN'T BRING ANY SONY QUESTIONAL EVALUATIONS

hell you just don't understand.MS paid both SE and cpacom

SE to bring FF11 and that time they offered to cut XBLG subscription and then to get FF13

for Capcom to allow them some XBLG discount and making relations with them

 

but now when MS is settled they don't want to compromise,the question

will MS do the same for the capcom partnership now that they are settled in the future as they didn't do it for SE after getting the games they wanted

 

its foolish to compare FF14 to MHFO(an old games and which sells lower on consoles) and heck capcom expectations wouldn't be anywhere near SE's expectattions

Mr Puggsly said:
Icyedge said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Hero_time88 said:

Is it just me or doesn´t M$ want Xbox 360 gamers to interact with PS3 gamers?


I dunno. Didn't FFXI allow 360 and PS2 players on the same server?

Perhaps MS doesn't want to do that again.

Yes your right, it was allowed for FFXI.

Well considering they did it before its odd they are willing to let a game like this pass up the 360.

Perhaps there is more to this than we really know?


the only thing more is that they don't want two subsciptions wich will come in btw people subscibing for them and MS won't budge

Goddbless said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

it will go if MS makes LIVE free which SE wants

still think PS3 version will come in earlier even if 360 version announced


Xbox Live Silver is free and that is all you need to play an MMO.


no its not,

 

FF11 was just passed by MS because they wanted to get closer to SE

 

now that they have gotten FF13,they are not compromising again



Solid_Snake4RD on 20 August 2010
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:

Yeah it really is bigger. I mean, the latest full Monster Hunter game totally outsold the latest Final Fantasy game... Even in Japan.

MH3's going to have outsold FFXIV by like 5 to 1.  Both are basically MMOs, and both require a monthy subscription for that.  Hell, every MH game that requires a subscription (MH, MHG, MH2, MHG Wii) outsold FFXI in Japan too, bar MHFO, and it will soon enough.

The last full MH without a subscription (MHP2G) outsold the last full FF without a subscription (FFXIII) by 2 to 1.  MoHun's definitely a bigger IP in Japan at this point.

FF11 was plagued by delayed releases and PS2's not being so connected.it is not the same now

and hell why the hell are you comparing Portbale MH with FF games.you try to find as many ways to prove your point and still fail

selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:

If Capcom can manage it, why can't Square?


cause its not worth it to invest and then people don't play because of the monthly fee

Actually. More people played ff11 online with the 360 than the free PS2 service. 

So that statement is a moot subject.

But regardless. Considering the hugely dissapointing sales on both a Sony and M$ console of FF11 M$ wont bother with it. The sales were a waste of time for FF11.

did you even follow my statement,just came bashing around

FF11 was played but you didn't have to pay 2 fees then,now they are demanding it and MS doesn't want to allow it now

selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
jarrod said:

If Capcom can manage it, why can't Square?


cause its not worth it to invest and then people don't play because of the monthly fee

Actually. More people played ff11 online with the 360 than the free PS2 service. 

So that statement is a moot subject.

But regardless. Considering the hugely dissapointing sales on both a Sony and M$ console of FF11 M$ wont bother with it. The sales were a waste of time for FF11.

did you even follow my statement,just came bashing around

FF11 was played but you didn't have to pay 2 fees then,now they are demanding it and MS doesn't want to allow it now

jarrod said:
Icyedge said:
selnor said:
suoturska said:

Not cancelled? Well, I suppose it wouldn't be, since you cannot really cancel something that was never announced for release in the first place.


The 360 version is actually quite far into development. It was halted then started agian then halted again.

Official sources from either MS or Square? I never heard anything like that.

Read the OP.  The game originally started as a 360/Vista project codenamed "Requiem" too, pretty easy to google sources for that.

Resumes leaked existence of a 360 version being well into development too.  It went way farther than just talks, at least it did at one point.

yes it was a PC/360 project but 360 development has no proof,they could have never even touched it as they would first be making PC version and then when they went to MS they got rejected so there is a possiblity they never started

selnor said:
suoturska said:

Not cancelled? Well, I suppose it wouldn't be, since you cannot really cancel something that was never announced for release in the first place.


The 360 version is actually quite far into development. It was halted then started agian then halted again.


nobody knows how far it went

maybe they never started but were developing the PC version and then went to PS3 cause MS wasn't allowing them

it  was just started as PC/360 but 360 development has no proof

Icyedge said:

Ive read the OP and theres nothing related to that, I dont quite understand why you tell me to read it. Beside, I wasnt able to find any information on project "Requiem", let alone one that would come from either MS or square. To my knowledge the first time FF 14 was announce (E3) it wasnt announce on 360. It always been the same speech from square enix since then, that they are looking with MS.

Now, I would be glad to learn more, can you point me to the sources of information you and selnor have? Also, if its a resumee "worked on project "requiem" for 360/vista", I would like to know what makes assume its FF14. Even if it doesnt come from square or MS themselves im open as long at it makes enough sense.

it was never announced as a 360/PC but when it started development some leaks said that it was a 360/PC project

they would have been developing PC first and then MS rejected them for hte 360 version so they went on PS3 and announced it E3 2009



Solid_Snake4RD on 20 August 2010

wrong post



Mr Puggsly on 20 August 2010

Goddbless said:


Xbox Live Silver is free and that is all you need to play an MMO.

 

Solid_Snake4RD said:

 
no its not,

 

FF11 was just passed by MS because they wanted to get closer to SE

 

now that they have gotten FF13,they are not compromising again

Well i can only think of two MMOs on the 360 (PSO & FFXI). And neither of them require a Gold account.

I read in Japan you a get a free month of Gold with a paid month of MHFO. But I'm not really sure if that's true.



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