Whether homosexuality caused from CAH is normal or abnormal is not the point.

Reading some of the posts here, the issue is gays more or less wanting complete validation for their homosexual lifestyle just the same as a church going, married hetero couple with 2 girls and a boy get validation for their lifestyle.

Scientists could discover tomorrow whether homosexuality is genetic or whether homosexuality is a choice fostered by one's environment. Regardless, homosexuals being a minority will not get the validation they want the day after.

Is it right? No, but too often in the news I see homosexual advocacy groups trying to change individual views on homosexuality by shoving their world view down people's throat and calling them homophobic because they are not entirely at ease with the homosexual lifestyle or disagree.

If you want to persuade someone, first find common ground then work from there. For example, advocate for adoption of kids by gay parents and over time as more kids are raised by gay parents, this will take the steam from anti-gay forces that homosexuality is immoral and their main argument of "this is for the children."

I agree. Though maybe he was just phrasing it wrong. Hope he'll calirify things.

If I had a choice I would prevent my child from being gay in the womb. Yes not on topic but thats probably a sentiment shared by many.

What I meant by the first statement is that the homosexuality in CAH doesn't come about in the same way the majority of homosexual cases, it's directly linked to the condition. The mechanisms may be the same (or at least believed to be) in that it is caused by hormones, but it is different in the root cause. It can fully be described as an atypical form of homosexuality, in that it is not homosexuality under the same conditions as the majority of cases of homosexuality.

As for my second statement. I object to you saying I haven't explained why they suffer, as I explained about the woman I used to know who suffered from it. You just didn't find that satisfying, so I'll explain a little further using other resources.

Women who suffer from CAH do so because they have been exposed to high levels of the androgen prenatally, and this has caused them to become more "masculinised". They share many of the same characteristics as men even though they often recognise their gender role as female, so their homosexuality comes as part of a "gender confusion", as opposed to just attraction to the same sex. Mentally it can be quite  difficult to cope with, as even from a young age their brains are hard wired to be more masculine, even though they are female.The psychological well being of people with CAH is a concern and often they are required to receive psychological help from an early age to develop with good mental health.

"Relatively positive 'personality functioning' has been reported, based on case work with female adolescents who have received early and adequate medical and psychological care. Another study, however, reported reduced social competence and poorer body image but also a lesser tendency towards 'depressive coping' compared with a control group. The paucity of information on multiple aspects of psychological well-being and quality of life for adults with CAH should concern all health professionals."

(Source)

(On a side note, I don't think the woman I used to know had any psychological help, and she clearly used to struggle to cope with depression)

(But to be honest I shouldn't really have to explain further than their homosexuality is part of their condition and it's one more thing they struggle with. [I know it's not the worst thing they have to cope with by far, but they still have to cope with it]. I guess it's like saying tall people who are tall under regular conditions don't particularly suffer from being tall; however people who are tall because of  growth hormone issues do struggle with it as part of their condition: but this isn't really relevant to my point)

I would love to get his studies and have been looking for it, but it's from over 17 years ago.  I know he was from U.C.L.A. and I read his articles after seeing him on T.V. talkshow.  this was before Oprah got big - it was and old white guy. I forget the name of the show.    

But you probably heard of Lipton, the biologist.  I think you can hear his teachings on Youtube. 

It could be that more people are coming out of the closet because it is more acceptable, (I won't deny you that), but it's also possible that since it's more acceptable more people are choosing the lifestyle.    Again, I cannot be sure about this but it is possible. 

the day there are no more lesbians is the day when the earth is a terribly boring place.

Lifestyle? What??? Since when is a sexual orientation a lifestyle? "more people are choosing the lifestyle" = gay people are choosing not to pretend they're straight. A gay person pretending to be straight is still gay. And I doubt straight people are starting going gay. Then again if you define sexual orientation just by acts rather than internal feelings and attraction I can see why you have the opinion that you do.

Yeah, i do have options.  I do believe there are people with internal feelings, but I also believe some are sucked into it.

(no pun intended)

Sucked into it??? Please elaborate. You can message me if you don't wanna post it here (may be too off topic).

This is a great post. In particular how you describe gender confusion in CAH being tied to homosexuality.

I was originally after your wrong(-ish) way of separating reasons for homosexuality into some being pathological and some being not. But it's all been clarified by you now, above.

No hard feelings Highwaystar, I hope.