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Yeah, it really sounds like the OP is one or more of the following things:

  • He chose a private school over a state school
  • He didn't research his school (I'm guessing he chose one close, one with a good football team, or one that had a good reputation)
  • He fully expects employers to rush to his door with job offers simply handed to him because of the mere fact he has a degree.
  • He chose a major that wasn't right for him so he doesn't have the best grades because he's not good at what he chose to do or he's not motivated.
  • And don't get me wrong, you can be successful without a college degree, it's just you're MUCH more likely to more successful with one.  It's funny to listen to people straight out of college who can't find a job.  It's always the schools fault and not theirs at all.  Why wouldn't someone want to hire a recent grad with a 2.4 GPA and no co-op or relevant experience?  They're the ones that suck, not you.

    And just for reference, I can laugh because I was right there with you after graduating.  I did little research, chose a major because it could be cool, and had no experience upon graduating.  With a Computer Scrience in hand and having to accept a Geek Squad job because I couldn't find anything else, I didn't blame my school.  True, I think they could have done a better job preparing me for the real world but I also didn't do a job preparing myself.  During school I forgot that I would be competing with 1000's of other people better than me and I didn't try as hard as I should have.  My own fault.

    Anyways, have fun at Devry or Westwood College because I'm sure they'll do everything within their power to get you a job.  /sarcasm



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    superchunk said:

    Yeah because my changing my annual salary from less than $40k a year to over $80 a year in two years wasn't worth it. Not to mention I am now sitting in an office where I can come to VGC whenever I like vs having to force customers to purchase extended warranties to bump up my commisions on appliances. lol SCREW ADVANCING YOUR LIFE, WORK HARDER TO EARN LESS (MAYBE SAME) MONEY!!!

    This.



    numonex said:

    College degrees are a waste of time and money. IMO a trade is a better career path than a generic college degree with no career path/ direction. IMO a trade qualification  is far more valuable than a college degree. College is becoming more and more expensive and with the economic downturn: fewer people will be able to afford to take out high student loans to fund private college tuitions. 

    When considering a university/college degree ensure there are adequate jobs available and take the steps to secure future employment in the field. Related work experience is rarely included in the university education.  Little or no work experience puts graduates at a disadvantage of securing employment. There is an over supply of higher degree graduates with limited chances of securing employment. Carefully think about that college degree with your family and friends. It may leave you in financial ruin and a life time of regret.

    College degrees in the US will often lead you with high levels of debt which you may not ever be able to pay back. The academic and media have lead society on a path to debt and financial ruin by encouraging and promoting the College dream. America needs factory, construction, labourers, retail workers just as much as these high paid white collar professional jobs. Less academic students should not be encouraged to study college degrees and go into debt.

    The majority of university/college education is progressive socialist claptrap. It is a waste of time and money and it will often leave you in huge debt. 

    BTW: The above  rant is just my view/opinion on college education. 


    You're really stupid.

    BTW: The above  rant is just my view/opinion on your education.

    EDIT: This post has been moderated. -d1



    superchunk said:

    Yeah because my changing my annual salary from less than $40k a year to over $80 a year in two years wasn't worth it. Not to mention I am now sitting in an office where I can come to VGC whenever I like vs having to force customers to purchase extended warranties to bump up my commisions on appliances. lol SCREW ADVANCING YOUR LIFE, WORK HARDER TO EARN LESS (MAYBE SAME) MONEY!!!

    Isn't that against ofice regulations in most places?



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    sapphi_snake said:
    superchunk said:

    Yeah because my changing my annual salary from less than $40k a year to over $80 a year in two years wasn't worth it. Not to mention I am now sitting in an office where I can come to VGC whenever I like vs having to force customers to purchase extended warranties to bump up my commisions on appliances. lol SCREW ADVANCING YOUR LIFE, WORK HARDER TO EARN LESS (MAYBE SAME) MONEY!!!

    Isn't that against ofice regulations in most places?


    That's why you get a good job with an employer that focuses on your work and your every second of time.



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    Hey everyone lets all ignore the studies that show the majority of people who receive a higher education have

    -higher paying jobs

    -higher standard of life

    -more likely to have health and life insurance

    -less likely to be in poverty

    Lets also ignore the fact that it is becoming increasingly impossible to get into a well paid job without a degree. You know what, screw science and all those other fancy things we have, lets all get payed 8 dollars an hour for serving fries at Mc Donalds.

    I'm not saying that education is a guaranteed path to success or that people without an education all work minimum wage but for the majority of people yes that is the case. So good luck on your 40k job (if your lucky), I'm going to study for a few more years, get through medical school and make minimum 200k. Ignorance is bliss, well not really. 



                                               

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    School doesn't hurt but after interviewing possible interns all day today, PICK A MAJOR THAT INTERESTS YOU.

    If you're in the CS/IT field and you don't find computers interesting enough to learn stuff on the side, you're gonna be without a job for a long time. I had to eliminate three guys today because their school taught them ASP.net and they never bothered to learn PHP on the side. Unless they're planning to work for a Fortune 500 company, that ASP knowledge is virtually useless.

    School is a great stepping stone but students need to realize that work is required outside the classroom to succeed.

    Anyway, back to reading resumes.... sigh.




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    superchunk said:

    Yeah because my changing my annual salary from less than $40k a year to over $80 a year in two years wasn't worth it. Not to mention I am now sitting in an office where I can come to VGC whenever I like vs having to force customers to purchase extended warranties to bump up my commisions on appliances. lol SCREW ADVANCING YOUR LIFE, WORK HARDER TO EARN LESS (MAYBE SAME) MONEY!!!


    I think you missed the point of his post.  For you, going back to school was a good idea, because you had a direction and a goal in mind.  For a lot of people when they first go to college or university, they don't have a clue what field they want to go into and just end up partying and half-assing it.  I know several people who went to university with me and got their BSC's who ended up being Ski patrol and waiter/waitresses because their fields of study bored them to tears.  They had a bitch of a time paying their loans down on $15 an hour.  Now they are back in school for nursing (taking out more loans because they have 0 savings), and lost out on alot of potential income if they had gotten a trade straight out of high school and spent some time figuring out what the fuck they wanted to do in the first place.

    I really recommend taking a year after high school and getting a job somewhere to figure out what career path you want to go down before jumping into college.  Otherwise you could end up like some of my other friends who graduated and despise their fields/jobs. Almost all my friends who are happy with their jobs knew what they wanted to do before going to school, and did well in their classes because they had a goal in mind.

    The main message: School is a big investment of time and money.  You wouldn't invest $100k haphazardly into something you didn't research thoroughly, so why would you go to school without researching your potential career options?

    Of course, going to school just to party is pretty fun too.  Meeting people and making new friends is an important part of college.  If you go to college and just focus on studying/learning the courses, you are missing an aspect of school that could be more valuable than your degree: social networking.

    And for the record, when I worked construction the bosses of the 3 medium sized companies I did alot of work for all made over $170k/yr (average age: 35).  The problem with construction is that the jobs are often cyclical and heavily dependant upon the market/economy.



    Depends. Personally I want to be a professional, and to be a professional you pretty much have to have a degree.

    Some degrees get you into professions that are hard to find jobs in, don't pay well but are very interesting to the people who do them. Mostly in the pure fields of science.