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Garnett said:

Lets reverse it and see what it looks like (Note my opinion is probably extreme and i never wish for this to happen)

Christians build a church over the holocaust site, is it wrong?

Of course its not in America, but you get my point.

Plus Terrorist didn't destroy the WTC...

(My opinion)

 

Also i heard that the mosque isn't even on ground zero, but 2 blocks away. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Strange example, since the Nazis weren't actually Christian, but sure, that works.

And of course the mosque isn't on Ground Zero. The Memorial Centre is on Ground Zero.



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Yeah there's no question that everybody involved is unnecessarily being a dick.  But the constitution grants us the right to be dicks with our religions, our speech, and our press.  They have a right to build the mosque, the American people have a right to bitch and moan, and the media has a right to bitch and moan.  The only person who isn't being a dick is Obama, which is hilarious, because the whole country of dicks is against him on this issue.

Speaking of a whole lotta dicks, sounds like there's gonna be even more next door to the mosque.  I will gladly support this mosque and this gay bar.  That's how you fight cultures you don't like: shove your own culture in their face.  This is what gay bars were made for: making religious people feel weird.



 

Some gutless swine can drop a symbol that many people hold dear into a jar of urine without any fear a reprisal.  This happened when some guy did this in an exhibit. A cross in a jar of urine(oh so brave!)sarcasm

But just a drawing of a certain deity will cause people to pee their pants in fear. It will not happen

Why is this

Why does this happen.. because people have died over this

It makes me think who really is tolerant and what motivates them  to simply have to have it near ground zero



leatherhat said:
mhsillen said:
leatherhat said:
mhsillen said:
 


catholics will not remain silent on atrocities committed in their name

and I am not a friend to the catholics 


you best get friendly or we'll send out Iscariot

I did go thru my first holy communion and attended catholic school

I meant I am not partial to them I know their blemishes 

Don't worry I was joking


I got it, at least. That guy was insane, as was everyone in Hellsing



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Mr Khan said:
leatherhat said:
mhsillen said:
leatherhat said:
mhsillen said:
 


catholics will not remain silent on atrocities committed in their name

and I am not a friend to the catholics 


you best get friendly or we'll send out Iscariot

I did go thru my first holy communion and attended catholic school

I meant I am not partial to them I know their blemishes 

Don't worry I was joking


I got it, at least. That guy was insane, as was everyone in Hellsing


Glad to see someone gets my references



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LoL. So Freedom of religion, except for the religions we don't like? The moment you put parameters and disqualifiers on one thing, the whole thing becomes hypocritical or irrelevant.I'm agnostic, so I can care less, however our President did the right thing in upholding and interpreting the constitutional right of any religious group to take this course of action. Would it be any different if a synagogue were to be built 2 blocks from the WTC? I'm a New Yorker, not religious, and see no issue or controversy in what is happening here.

If anything I see much ado about nothing, to keep eyes looking one way while the shit we're supposed to be informed about goes unnoticed.

I'm not even convinced it was supposed islamic terrorists who attacked the US that day. Too many unanswered questions, too much rush to judgements and too many unprecedented events. Any time the word unprecedented turns up..I'm suspicious.  



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Kantor said:
Garnett said:

Lets reverse it and see what it looks like (Note my opinion is probably extreme and i never wish for this to happen)

Christians build a church over the holocaust site, is it wrong?

Of course its not in America, but you get my point.

Plus Terrorist didn't destroy the WTC...

(My opinion)

 

Also i heard that the mosque isn't even on ground zero, but 2 blocks away. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Strange example, since the Nazis weren't actually Christian, but sure, that works.

And of course the mosque isn't on Ground Zero. The Memorial Centre is on Ground Zero.

According to THIS, He had Christian beliefs, but who cares about Hitler.

As long as you see my example, is all that matters.

If its not on ground zero, who cares? It seems like the Media is making the Muslim population out to be the bad guy. (IMO)



This is great news and something that should be celebrated. I wonder if the relatives of those of perished are in celebration. The ones who's views should count considering its 10min location to where the people lost their lives.

Obama backing mult-cultureism? Shocker. Why couldn't they build it a tiny bit further away and avoid all this unneccesary controversy? Build millions across America, whatever you want but to do it in this specific "zone" seems a slight bit provocative and as you can see the majority of American's have a strong view against the building. Just another excuse for them to hate on the Muslims when it could have been avoided so easily.



Arius Dion said:

LoL. So Freedom of religion, except for the religions we don't like? The moment you put parameters and disqualifiers on one thing, the whole thing becomes hypocritical or irrelevant.I'm agnostic, so I can care less, however our President did the right thing in upholding and interpreting the constitutional right of any religious group to take this course of action. Would it be any different if a synagogue were to be built 2 blocks from the WTC? I'm a New Yorker, not religious, and see no issue or controversy in what is happening here.

If anything I see much ado about nothing, to keep eyes looking one way while the shit we're supposed to be informed about goes unnoticed.

I'm not even convinced it was supposed islamic terrorists who attacked the US that day. Too many unanswered questions, too much rush to judgements and too many unprecedented events. Any time the word unprecedented turns up..I'm suspicious.

Nah,  if that was the truth their would be also a lot of drama when the other 30 mosque's opened..



 

badgenome said:

And now he's backpedaling.

 

Oh wow:


Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor who has been a vocal critic of mosque’s planned location, called on Mr. Obama to take a firm stance.

“We all know that they have the right to do it, but should they?” she asked in a Facebook post on Saturday afternoon. “And no, this is not above your pay grade,” she added, referring to the president.

She continued: “If those who wish to build this ground zero mosque are sincerely interested in positive ‘cross-cultural engagement’ and dialogue to show a moderate and tolerant face of Islam, then why haven’t they recognized that the decision to build a mosque at this particular location is doing just the opposite?