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NiKKoM said:
mhsillen said:
SciFiBoy said:
superchunk said:
theman88 said:

any one question his religion now?


No, he's Christian. He's also American and a President who must uphold our Constitution. There is absolutely no reason to not allow that Mosque to be built.


this ^

so far as I know, there is nothing to stop them doing this.

did I read correctly somewhere that some guy wants to build a Gay Bar next to it btw? if so, good on him


And the Imam did not like it because it wasn't sensitive to the Muslims beliefs

Wrong... the quote was: "You're free to open whatever you like. If you won't consider the sensibilities of Muslims, you're not going to build dialog"


well what does that mean then

it means they do not like gay people

thats a fact

And what about the sensibilities of the people of NYC how ironic



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mhsillen said:

 

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf who is behind this Mosque denies Hamas is a terrorist organization and blames the USA for 911 attacks

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/will_the_real_imam_feisal_abdu.html

 

Oh lets be sensitive to his beliefs and fuck everyone else who is opposed

I'd like to see the actual quote, upon following the links through all I got were more links until it went to Fox which just said that he was quoted saying that without giving a source.  I'm curious if that's what he truly meant based on context.

Also, it isn't that those who oppose you don't care about the feelings of those who were injured in 9/11.  It's that those feelings can't change the constitution.  You can argue that they shouldn't do it, but you can't take away their right to do it.  If we try to protect our way of life by taking away freedom of religion which is one of the founding aspects of our way of life then what did we really save?

further more you are right that real people were behind 9/11 and real people died, but what does that have to do with these people trying to build a mosque?  Leave the blame on the real people that did it, don't just throw the blame at a bunch of people who had nothing to do with it.  It's like if some Catholic burnt down an Abortion Clinic and killed the doctors because that's how he interprets his religion and you threw the blame at Catholicism in general.





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mhsillen said:

Try to wrap your brains around this

In your voyage of tolerance and due to the fact you care more for appearance

you slap belittle trample on the memory of those who died on 911

I say that because you don't understand how this might have an adverse affect on people

showing you are also intolerant 

 


We're not, though. The only reason this has anything to do with 9/11 in the first place is because some people on the other side decided to take exception to this. It's just near Ground Zero, not on it, and its not like these people died so that Islam could be expelled from New York City. This was just a mosque at one point, in a big city where its hard to find property. Property happened to be available in a place relatively close by.



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Torillian said:
mhsillen said:

 

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf who is behind this Mosque denies Hamas is a terrorist organization and blames the USA for 911 attacks

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/will_the_real_imam_feisal_abdu.html

 

Oh lets be sensitive to his beliefs and fuck everyone else who is opposed

I'd like to see the actual quote, upon following the links through all I got were more links until it went to Fox which just said that he was quoted saying that without giving a source.  I'm curious if that's what he truly meant based on context.

Also, it isn't that those who oppose you don't care about the feelings of those who were injured in 9/11.  It's that those feelings can't change the constitution.  You can argue that they shouldn't do it, but you can't take away their right to do it.  If we try to protect our way of life by taking away freedom of religion which is one of the founding aspects of our way of life then what did we really save?

further more you are right that real people were behind 9/11 and real people died, but what does that have to do with these people trying to build a mosque?  Leave the blame on the real people that did it, don't just throw the blame at a bunch of people who had nothing to do with it.  It's like if some Catholic burnt down an Abortion Clinic and killed the doctors because that's how he interprets his religion and you threw the blame at Catholicism in general.




I don't want to stop them

but the fact they are shows that they really do not care that much about real dialogue



These muslims are actually part of a sect called sufi that is very western in thinking and very much down on the fundamental versions of Islam that lead to terrorisim. We should support them because they challange muslims to rethink radical beliefs. It also allows shows the muslim world that we aren't their enemies like Al queda has convinced them.

That being said I feel that the people behind this mosque just want the attention the controversy brings, as there are plenty of places for a mosque to be built that wouldn't offend so many people. But they have overcome all legal hurdles so there is no reason not to let them build it. And I hope that gay bar gets put in right next door so they might see what its like to have their senseibilities offended.



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Mr Khan said:
mhsillen said:

Try to wrap your brains around this

In your voyage of tolerance and due to the fact you care more for appearance

you slap belittle trample on the memory of those who died on 911

I say that because you don't understand how this might have an adverse affect on people

showing you are also intolerant 

 


We're not, though. The only reason this has anything to do with 9/11 in the first place is because some people on the other side decided to take exception to this. It's just near Ground Zero, not on it, and its not like these people died so that Islam could be expelled from New York City. This was just a mosque at one point, in a big city where its hard to find property. Property happened to be available in a place relatively close by.


They do not repudiate these attacks 

and this Imam is shaddy

I am tolerant but not stupid

Do some research on this guy

Not from cnn or fox

Independant



Torillian said:
mhsillen said:

 

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf who is behind this Mosque denies Hamas is a terrorist organization and blames the USA for 911 attacks

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/will_the_real_imam_feisal_abdu.html

 

Oh lets be sensitive to his beliefs and fuck everyone else who is opposed

I'd like to see the actual quote, upon following the links through all I got were more links until it went to Fox which just said that he was quoted saying that without giving a source.  I'm curious if that's what he truly meant based on context.

Also, it isn't that those who oppose you don't care about the feelings of those who were injured in 9/11.  It's that those feelings can't change the constitution.  You can argue that they shouldn't do it, but you can't take away their right to do it.  If we try to protect our way of life by taking away freedom of religion which is one of the founding aspects of our way of life then what did we really save?

further more you are right that real people were behind 9/11 and real people died, but what does that have to do with these people trying to build a mosque?  Leave the blame on the real people that did it, don't just throw the blame at a bunch of people who had nothing to do with it.  It's like if some Catholic burnt down an Abortion Clinic and killed the doctors because that's how he interprets his religion and you threw the blame at Catholicism in general.




catholics will not remain silent on atrocities committed in their name

and I am not a friend to the catholics 



mhsillen said:
Torillian said:
mhsillen said:

 

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf who is behind this Mosque denies Hamas is a terrorist organization and blames the USA for 911 attacks

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/will_the_real_imam_feisal_abdu.html

 

Oh lets be sensitive to his beliefs and fuck everyone else who is opposed

I'd like to see the actual quote, upon following the links through all I got were more links until it went to Fox which just said that he was quoted saying that without giving a source.  I'm curious if that's what he truly meant based on context.

Also, it isn't that those who oppose you don't care about the feelings of those who were injured in 9/11.  It's that those feelings can't change the constitution.  You can argue that they shouldn't do it, but you can't take away their right to do it.  If we try to protect our way of life by taking away freedom of religion which is one of the founding aspects of our way of life then what did we really save?

further more you are right that real people were behind 9/11 and real people died, but what does that have to do with these people trying to build a mosque?  Leave the blame on the real people that did it, don't just throw the blame at a bunch of people who had nothing to do with it.  It's like if some Catholic burnt down an Abortion Clinic and killed the doctors because that's how he interprets his religion and you threw the blame at Catholicism in general.




catholics will not remain silent on atrocities committed in their name

and I am not a friend to the catholics 


you best get friendly or we'll send out Iscariot



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leatherhat said:
mhsillen said:
Torillian said:
mhsillen said:

 

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf who is behind this Mosque denies Hamas is a terrorist organization and blames the USA for 911 attacks

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/will_the_real_imam_feisal_abdu.html

 

Oh lets be sensitive to his beliefs and fuck everyone else who is opposed

I'd like to see the actual quote, upon following the links through all I got were more links until it went to Fox which just said that he was quoted saying that without giving a source.  I'm curious if that's what he truly meant based on context.

Also, it isn't that those who oppose you don't care about the feelings of those who were injured in 9/11.  It's that those feelings can't change the constitution.  You can argue that they shouldn't do it, but you can't take away their right to do it.  If we try to protect our way of life by taking away freedom of religion which is one of the founding aspects of our way of life then what did we really save?

further more you are right that real people were behind 9/11 and real people died, but what does that have to do with these people trying to build a mosque?  Leave the blame on the real people that did it, don't just throw the blame at a bunch of people who had nothing to do with it.  It's like if some Catholic burnt down an Abortion Clinic and killed the doctors because that's how he interprets his religion and you threw the blame at Catholicism in general.




catholics will not remain silent on atrocities committed in their name

and I am not a friend to the catholics 


you best get friendly or we'll send out Iscariot

I did go thru my first holy communion and attended catholic school

I meant I am not partial to them I know their blemishes 



mhsillen said:
leatherhat said:
mhsillen said:


catholics will not remain silent on atrocities committed in their name

and I am not a friend to the catholics 


you best get friendly or we'll send out Iscariot

I did go thru my first holy communion and attended catholic school

I meant I am not partial to them I know their blemishes 

Don't worry I was joking



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