| Killiana1a said: *breaks out the popcorn and waits to see who gets banned first for creating a deliberate flame inducing thread with equally flaming responses* |
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You can't compare them just as cameras. That's the issue. The Eye is a very good camera, arguably as good as the similar camera in Kinect. But Kinect has multiple mics positioned for better sound sourcing and it has additional sensing devices to better support 3D motion tracking.
So as camera's - i.e. the resolution of the image they capture - they're more or less the same. It's the extra stuff on Kinect that makes it different. For a full comparison you'd need to bring in Move as well as it's really the Move wand plus the Eye that's is PS3 equivilent of Kinect.
But yes, what it means that, with the right software, the Eye can emulate certain Kinect functions more or less exactly. But not all.
Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...
rakugakist said:
Kinect can be as advanced as it wants, but if all it offers are advanced versions of dance and fitness games, who is really going to care? I doubt the casual market will. They can already play those games on the Wii, and especially at what Kinect costs, I don't see too many of them jumping ship. Wii has already proved one thing this gen, and that is being the most technology advanced doesn't equal sales. And who really wants to play a racing game without acceleration and brake controls anyways? Or does Joy Ride do that? I don't know, looks awful to me either way. Kinect looks like a bust to me. Hardcore 360 fanboys will probably buy it, but it'll most likely be swept under the rug like a dusty 32X. |
They don't look like they'll be fun to you. I think Wii Sports and Resort are complete dog shit. I sold them off. But clearly there are enough people that seem to enjoy them.
Once again, you're just sharing your feelings on Kinect line up. Clearly they aren't being marketed to you.
From my understanding the speed in racing games is supposed to be controled by how far apart your hands are. We'll have to wait and see what becomes of racing games on the Kinect. I imagine gestures could control a lot of different functions.
For what its worth... I think the Kinect will be a much bigger success than the 32X. Why you are even using the 32X as an exmpale? Well that's just dumb.
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MARCUSDJACKSON said:
i had a thread that asked this same question, and as a observer only just as i am now not trying or willing to debate! i've seen no difference. |
Once again since you can't seem to get it through your head. I just want to see PS Eye games doing exactly what Kinect games are doing.
Hence, controlling a 3D model with your body, playing a driving game with just your hands, or even using your hand similar as a mouse cursor to guide through menus. It seems the only excuse Sony fans have is, "well you don't know it can't do it."
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| Euphoria14 said: Why would developers take advantage when first off it isn't the main PS3 controller and two, Sony themselves barely supported it? It would have been financial suicide. Alright, maybe you are right, Move has nothing to do with this, but you still can't prove at all that PSEye isn't capable of supporting Kinect styled games, especially without Kinect games utilizing the ability to track the player moving to and from the camera. If a game only requires facial, speech, 2D movements, etc... the PSEye can do so as well. Pretty much every Kinect game shown so far requires you to stand/run in place, something the PSEye can work with. The one game that does use forward motion (Joyride boosting) is said to be a real hit or miss action with it sometimes not registering. That is what I am saying. |
So your arugement is... the PS Eye has the same capabilities as Kinect but nobody took advantage of it because its financial suicdie? I find that highly unlikely.
It probably is capable of supporting some Kinect games. Keyword being SOME. I mean Your Shape for example is basically getting the image of your body and making a 2D image out of it. That doesn't seem to be out of the PS Eye's capabilities. However, this thread is implying the PS Eye is capable of everything the Kinect is. Which is simply just not true.
Ofcourse a lot of the games require you "stand/run in palce," it uses a friggin camera. But like I said, I've yet to see anything on the PS Eye/Eyetoy that transfers your motion to a 3D model or even follows your hand like that bowling game.
What you're saying has really nothing to do with the discussion. You're just downplaying what the Kinect does and have no proof the PS Eye has all the same capabilities.
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Mr Puggsly said:
So your arugement is... the PS Eye has the same capabilities as Kinect but nobody took advantage of it because its financial suicdie? I find that highly unlikely. It probably is capable of supporting some Kinect games. Keyword being SOME. I mean Your Shape for example is basically getting the image of your body and making a 2D image out of it. That doesn't seem to be out of the PS Eye's capabilities. However, this thread is implying the PS Eye is capable of everything the Kinect is. Which is simply just not true. Ofcourse a lot of the games require you "stand/run in palce," it uses a friggin camera. But like I said, I've yet to see anything on the PS Eye/Eyetoy that transfers your motion to a 3D model or even follows your hand like that bowling game. What you're saying has really nothing to do with the discussion. You're just downplaying what the Kinect does and have no proof the PS Eye has all the same capabilities. |
I already stated that I am sure the Kinect can do things the PSEye can't. I was just saying that MS hasn't been doing a real good job of showing it so far.
Looking back at the quoted post I can see where it looks like I was trying to claim it can do the same things. 
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Mr Puggsly said:
Once again since you can't seem to get it through your head. I just want to see PS Eye games doing exactly what Kinect games are doing. Hence, controlling a 3D model with your body, playing a driving game with just your hands, or even using your hand similar as a mouse cursor to guide through menus. It seems the only excuse Sony fans have is, "well you don't know it can't do it." |
it was through my head, but like i said i'm an observer. i'm not the Sony Nintendo fan to worry about. it's not my debate, but good luck with that.
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One thing is for sure Kinect can't do everything that Move can because it doesn't have a real controller, but Move can do the Peew Peew.
The person who wrote this article is comparing two different streams of data. The 320x240 16 bit feed on Kinect is for depth information(supposedly 320x240, based only on Play.com), PSEye has no equivalent of that.
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