Whoa, Another Code: R is hardcore now? I had to do an update on that before I could play it.

I'm a PAL user, and it's never happened to me.

Must be a KylieDog thing.

I personally think it is to help fight against piracy. By having big releases or hardcare games that might be more likely to get pirated with system updates it forces hackers to lag some giving them a chance to sell more, just my thought.

On the rearranging channles, I have only had this happen if a channel was removed by nintendo the others seem to move to take its place. I forget which ones but I believe a few channles have been discontied or new ones added. not sure though. I did have mine organised a certain way also, and after a long dry period with my wii they were mixed up, I figured it was a system update.

The updates on the disk are primarily new drivers or API's. For example, Metroid Prime 3 contained the ability for games to post images to the message board (which the game uses). Wii Sport Resort contained the code for accessing the Check Mii Out channel from inside games. A lot of the others are things like Wii Speak. The hardcore games tend to have new features more often, so they have updates to enable this support on the Wii in a central way (rather than each game directly modifying the Wii system memory to do these things, it can be tested in one central way and deployed in an update).

I didn't even know you could arrange the channels. Can you tell me how? And can you also arrance your VC games?

Put the cursor over it, hold down A B simultaneously, and move it where you want it. I had a page for the older systems with each game I had from that system on that page.

lol @ the rearranging channels, thranx is right, the only time it changes is when they take a channel out, which would be an actual update rather than a disc update (the number of times they take one out is rare), it doesn't reset anything just move everything up one position unless you leave gaps for some reason then it puts them back next to each other, same order though just lined up.

NSMB Wii does have a disc update just fyi

Not sure the problem since every system does this now except for the DS...

Well then you seem to be the only one that has this problem, everyone else has the same thing Thranx describes, even then its a minor inconvenience at best (cause it takes all of 5 seconds to arrange them how you like again), just like disc based updates, its so prevalent now that even your movie player will ask for an update

This.  These games contain updates that are necessary to use some of their features.  I believe the one on Brawl, for instance, enabled the Wii to read dual-layer discs properly, which was important since the game used one.

Does that also mean these can unlock more processing capabilities of the Wii?

Aslo, Kylie, I'm geniunely sorry you have to be inconvenienced this way. So it seems the best solution is to a) just keep your channels in pretty much the order you downloaded them (or move some to an SD card), and b) play the Wii more often (even if it's getting some classic VC games you haven't played before).

I have those games, and they didn't require updates.

In fact I started playing NMH2 about a week ago. No update required.

PAL version.