Ok I know there are mostly Sony fans on this website but its getting pretty ridiculous. Sony fans you can't have your cake and eat it too. We've been hearing for many months how Forza 3 just doesn't compare to GT5. How GT5 is just going to crush it on features, gameplay, etc. Even though none of you have actually played GT5.

Now you come in here and you can honestly say that when it comes to Reach vs Killzone 3 we can't do a comparison because the games aren't out? When Halo:Reach had a playable beta that 3 million gamers have played?

Halo:Reach obviously will have more features, more involved gameplay, etc. If GT5 is better than Forza 3 for these exact  reasons than obviously Reach is better than Killzone 3 for these same reasons.

Halo:Reach is a major jump from Halo 3. Graphics are vastly improved, armor abilities have been added, new vehicles and weapons, the overall gameplay has changed from the way Halo used to be played. The game still has the Halo feel to it but if you played the beta you would understand just how different this game is than any other Halo.

When it comes to Killzone 3 we pretty much know what we are going to get. The jump from Killzone 2 to 3 will not be as big a jump from Halo 3 to Reach. So pick your poison Sony fans. Is GT5 better than Forza 3 because of scale and gameplay, the same why Reach has a bigger scale and better gameplay than Killzone 3? Or are you going to stick by the "wait till the games release" comment and take back the GT5 praise.

Your missing the point. Killzone 3 is a realistic tactical shooter. Halo Reach is an arcade style. It's all preference. They can't be compared. Gran Turismo 5 is a relistic simulator. Forza is a relistic simulator. They can be compared.