By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Microsoft - Sexy Ladies can't disguise Kinect Live demo fail

In the video in question it doesn't seem to be so much a failure of kinect tech than MS marketing.   They've put those girls on too small a stage for the equipment to work.   I would want to be running at the edge of the stage either, one wrong step...

Regarding the chatter re Kinect:  Tells me one thing.  No one cares about Move.  It's been there, done that. Boring.

What it tells me about Kinect:  The MASSIVE problem with Kinect is all the endless variables needed to get a good read.  This tech will be fine with patient adults but will be a COMPLETE FAILURE for young kids who will be too hyper to stand so far apart, and so far away from the camera and move so slow and don't do this, and don't sit down, and don't wear that.    They won't 'get' it.  Also in games like Kinectimals, it seems you have to follow the prompts and do as your told.   You are not so much playing the game as the game is playing you.   Kids won't be following and won't be doing what they are suppose to be, and will be lost and frustrated. IT'll never work for them and they will quickly lose attention.   Parents will blast the tech as 'broken' all over Amazon reviews and such and MS is going to have a huge PR problem.   

The only viable long term market I see for kinect is tech savvy adult woman with large living rooms, and most of them already own Wiis.



 

Around the Network
Porcupine_I said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Ping_ii said:
How long till the moderators respond to the report?

seriously I already knew that the reason for bringing PSmove into this discussion is to derail it so ppl will get side tracked from discussing kinect and it's problems which is what this thread is about.


You can't blame me entirely. Granted I mentioned another device that has problem with lighting. But its the Sony fans that blew it up and completely derailed the thread.



Hey there's no need to make fun of dogs now!

Look what you did Mr Puggsly, forget PS Move your comments have led to dogs being mocked now! I can't bear this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

_______

OT:

LOL that was funny.

Lets hope these are SOFTWARE bugs not hardware ones so that they can be ironed out soon.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

Being someone who tried Kinect at Macy's in Chicago that first video fail had nothing to do with the flashes. It had everything to do with the girl simply must not understand english because Kinect/Kinect sports was telling her to move over and she ignored it.  We played with Kinect for almost 1.5 hours and it worked with no issues in a department store with people coming and going all the time.

We have a Wii at home and is it massive Nintendo fail when someone move the WiiMote outside the range of the Wii?  Is it massive fail when the Wii cant find the Wiiboard all of a sudden.  Same thing happens with Kinect if you get to far away, to close or stand behind something. 

I know a great deal of you are jealous that Nintendo or Sony did not come up with Kinect.  It works, the press and others that havent wanted it to fail that have tried it have confirmed it. 



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Their has been a lot of good feedback on kinect when it was being tested at E3. So something went wrong on that stage it happens with all new products. But this is nothing more then flame bait for xbox haters. If Microsoft really didn't have faith in this product in my opinion they wouldnt be holding these big live demo events. So obviously something unexpected happened on that stage.



Even if it works I'm a motion controls lover but I'm not going to support Kinect because only two players can be tracked at the same time (while Just Dance 2 will feature eight), you have to stand up to be tracked and every single game that I saw in their E3 presentation was copies of the wii/ds games but in 720p and with 4x of Anti-aliasing.... Why Microsft is releasing Kinect with tons of fitness games and no one hardcore shooter? I just can't understand. 

So this is why I will stay with my Wii.



Around the Network

So we have seen little issues when surrounded by flash photography.

So we have seen little issues when not surrounded by flash photography.

So we have seen little issues when in reasonable darkness (that IGN) article.

But every time you actually SEE people playing with Kinect; it does look like, regardless of is faults, they are having a good time.  Could this be due to a paycheck (the Japanese models say yes), but the fun part of it does look genuine.

It is also very obvious that initially, Kinect is targeting new users.  New users are not the hardcore (for the most part they either have one or will never have one) and these newbies want fun over function.  These are more concerns for the hardcore gamer in people who frequent sites like this one and MS already said that the hardcore games will be coming in the future.  They have plenty of time to work the kinks out.



adsl said:

Even if it works I'm a motion controls lover but I'm not going to support Kinect because only two players can be tracked at the same time (while Just Dance 2 will feature eight), you have to stand up to be tracked and every single game that I saw in their E3 presentation was copies of the wii/ds games but in 720p and with 4x of Anti-aliasing.... Why Microsft is releasing Kinect with tons of fitness games and no one hardcore shooter? I just can't understand. 

So this is why I will stay with my Wii.

My wife  just bought some kind of Wii fitness game with a camera to track her movement for only $30. I thought at first she was referring to Kinect.



zzamaro said:

This is MicroSoft, who was really expecting something reliable from them...only X360 fans comes in mind.

You could blame it on the flashes. You could blame it on the players not knowing what they were doing.  You could make any excuses to defend kinect. Or simply  you could just blame it on Kinect being a load of (censored ) that's more concept than substance.


The same excuses I here Nintendo fans give me every time Wii has fucked up on me?

No not the mighty ninty. They are perfect. 

Funny that a guy from Asia, who has been there and posted in this very thread who played it there and saw Anakin Skywalker there who said he had no issues gets left completely out of the question.

LOL.



Scruff7 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Porcupine_I said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Porcupine_I said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Porcupine_I said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Ping_ii said:
Mr Puggsly said:

My guess is the flashing is interfering with the Kinect. We can't tell if the Move has the same problem because nobody cares. I mean... given that we see little coverage on the Move.

Anyhow, is Kinect being released in Japan for the Holidays?

why bring PSmove in this thread?

What does PSmove have anything to do with Kinect issue discussion? so what if PSmove isn't getting much attention? IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT KINECT IS FLAWED.

BTW this is already on VGC news front page.

PS Move also uses a camera. So perhaps tons of flashing lights could interfere as well.

Obviously a room with tons of nonstop flashing lights is not the enviornment the Kinect is intended to be used.

here are no flashing lights, and from 4:25 it doesn't work so well either.

 

 

and i don't see why move is being discussed either.

For some reason it bugged out there, but it seems to work great for the most part. Its new technology, I don't expect perfection. I struggle with my god damn Wiimote all the time.

I mentioned Move because it also uses the camera. Perhaps the tons of flashing could interfere with the camera as well.

perhaps shmerhaps.

here is a video of some sneaky Germans trying to distract Move with a flashlight directly into the camera and they fail!

it's right at the start in the haircutting game

 

Not quite the same as tons of flashing lights engulfing the people playing.

But the hair cutting game isn't even tracking the people. It just follows that ball on the Wiimote Movemote.

of course it's different, it's always different, it's never the same, is it? it's only the same if you need is as example where perhaps the move could be distracted in a similar fashion in some parallel universe.

but i have yet to see a video where the Move fails, but there are plenty of those for the eyetoy  Kinect.

see what i did there?

Well Eyetoy didn't work properly if a room was too dark. I imagine too much brightness can be an issue as well. Regardless, the game he used as an example was following a ball and not people. So yes, its very different.

If the Eyetoy was just a Kinect than why don't they make some motion tracking games? Why do I have to play The Fight with those Movemotes? Why do I need those Movemotes to dance? Oh right... its just a webcam.

Kinect = New technology

Movemote = Exactly what it looks like

Kinect = New technology (that doesn't work)

Movemote = Exactly what it looks like (that works really well)

PS to answer you question, check this out: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/05/26/kung-fu-live-for-ps3-you-are-the-controller/

 



STFU. 

Kinect has proven it works. 

Are you ignoring the asian huy in this thread who has played Kinect at this very event? First page, bad english but gets his point across. I'll repeat for him.

I played it at this event. It worked really well with no issues. 

Man the media give a tag line off a stage demo ( that could have had issues for many reasons ) and you fanboys run with it. 

I guarentee you, when this is in peoples homes, it will work exactly as intended. 

The wii 4 years after launch still has loads of glitches with the Wii mote and people dont mention it because it's mighty Ninty. 

The amount of times playing Wii with stupid accuracy or purely bad motion sync is horrendous. But heres the point. It's nintendo.



Nsanity said:
Porcupine_I said:
zzamaro said:

This is MicroSoft, who was really expecting something reliable from them...only X360 fans comes in mind.

You could blame it on the flashes. You could blame it on the players not knowing what they were doing.  You could make any excuses to defend kinect. Or simply  you could just blame it on Kinect being a load of (censored ) that's more concept than substance.


no, you can't blame the players, because kinect was advertised as: "everyone can just step in front of it and join the fun, no experience required"

Kinect wasn't designed to be taken on stage with the flashing lights and intense atmosphere, 


Was it excited by the models and the intense atmosphere? This explains everything!   



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW!