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i wish IGN would stop bashing random shit even if i dont own the systems.. its getting kinda annoying lol

Edit: Oh shit did i acturally defended Kinect :O




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Is this really shocking news to anyone? Did we not see this coming? I have had this impression ever since I witnessed the infamous E3 '09 presentation, simply that Natal/Kinect will be a faulty, unresponsive piece of hardware/software. Bottom of an Avatar shoe anyone??? Smoke and mirrors presentation with that little kid running around?? Milo was it? I mean, the fails just keeps adding up. No long skirts, no baggy clothes, struggles in darkened conditions, bad voice recognition, and the latest video showing the asian girls where Kinect meant they were standing too close to each other or something like that. well, the girls barely made contact at any point and they had about 20-30 cm between them at all times. this means you might need a lot of space in your room if you want kinect to work. and they were only 2 players, what about 4 players?

so no, i am not surprised that kinect, a product from MS, will not function properly.



tjallern said:

Is this really shocking news to anyone? Did we not see this coming? I have had this impression ever since I witnessed the infamous E3 '09 presentation, simply that Natal/Kinect will be a faulty, unresponsive piece of hardware/software. Bottom of an Avatar shoe anyone??? Smoke and mirrors presentation with that little kid running around?? Milo was it? I mean, the fails just keeps adding up. No long skirts, no baggy clothes, struggles in darkened conditions, bad voice recognition, and the latest video showing the asian girls where Kinect meant they were standing too close to each other or something like that. well, the girls barely made contact at any point and they had about 20-30 cm between them at all times. this means you might need a lot of space in your room if you want kinect to work. and they were only 2 players, what about 4 players?

so no, i am not surprised that kinect, a product from MS, will not function properly.


You also forgot the "it hates black people" part as well.  Right?

Jeez guys, the same ole same ole from the same ole?  When it comes out judge it yourself.  I for one don't think kinect will be the end all be all of motion sensing games.  But its going to be a better piece of hardware than 99% of the haters are going to give it credit for. 

The only time I ever play a game in the "dark" is when my wifes asleep and I'm playing a FPS with my friends at night.   Somehow I don't think many people would be standing up and walking around when the room is dark.  But hay I may be wrong I guess some people like to fall or trip for no reason.



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So you guys suddenly care about IGN now?, the thing didn't release yet so we STILL have to wait and see.



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Siko1989 said:

i wish IGN would stop bashing random shit even if i dont own the systems.. its getting kinda annoying lol

Edit: Oh shit did i acturally defended Kinect :O


It is sort of the media's job to tell us what is good and what is not. If they just praised everything it wouldn't be any help at all. 



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makingmusic476 said:
WilliamWatts said:

It looks like Kinect has passed the IGN test. If they hate on it then obviously its going to do well, cue Wii console and Wii games.


From September 2006, just a few months prior to the Wii's launch:

Of course, all things considered, the fact that Wii plays GCN games is probably one of the least compelling reasons to pick up the new console -- at least compared to its other selling points. Not only is it sleeker, smaller and more powerful than its predecessor, but it has a launch library that immediately surpasses some second and even third generation outtings on other systems. Wii will launch with what could be the best videogame of all time in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, and with other potential hits like Metroid, Rayman, Madden, Far Cry, Red Steel and Excite Truck rounding out the list, there are a lot of games to be jazzed about.

Nintendo says playing is believing. We've played Wii's lineup and we are believers. Keep on reading to discover which Wii games will be available for your holiday wish list. We think you'll be surprised by just how many titles are on the way for the system's launch.

[...]

Despite the fact that Nintendo went out of its way to showcase Wii Sports at E3 2006, there are still a lot of question marks surrounding this simplified, but inspired sports compilation disc. The set features at least three popular sports, including baseball, tennis and golf, all of which were demonstrated in playable form last May. The controls - like the graphics - are simplified to the extreme. For example, in Tennis, players don't actually move the characters on-screen, but rather swing their rackets. Nintendo has chosen to keep the games very basic in order to make them very accessible for any type of player. As part of the hardcore, we'd love nothing more than to mock this approach, but truth be told, Wii Sports is a lot of fun.


I can find numerous quotes like this surrounding the Wii's launch.  The Wii only garnered significant "hatred" twice in its life:  First when the Wii was revealed in 2005, when the controller's remote-like design was met with considerable skepticisim, and again in 2008, when hardcore gamers feared Nintendo would only be making games like Wii Fit and Wii music for the rest of the generation.  The former fears were abated mid-2006, when Nintendo proved that the Wii actually works, and works quite well.  The latter issues were mostly resolved this past E3, when Nintendo unveiled Kirby, Donkey Kong, Zelda, and numerous other games.  There are still some bitter fanboys out there that are butthurt over the Wii's amazing success, but most people are back on board thanks to the return of Nintendo's best IPs plus the upcoming 3DS.

The Wii's announcement and launch is quite the reverse of Kinect, which was met with great interest thanks to the promises made at E309, followed by a great deal of backlash after it failed to live up to many people's expectations.  Wii articles circa 2005 were far more negative than Natal articles from last year, while Wii articles from just prior to launch were incredibly positive compared to the Kinect articles of today.

The idea that everyone hated the Wii and wanted it to fail around launch is a myth that really needs to die.  Launch was the first time people were truly excited about the system, thanks to impressive E306 demos, the Super Mario Galaxy reveal, and Twilight Princess becoming a launch title.  There was much skepticism before this, and much hatred after this, but late 2006 was one of the few times Nintendo was getting a great deal positive press this generation.


2005 it really didn't get hate either man, people were a bit skeptical but thats the way people always treat something new and unproven, the hate didn't come till 2008 for some reason when some of the best games on the platform hit lol 

People act like its the hate means it will do well but to be honest the hate only came after it became clear the PS3 and 360 would not reach Wii in sales then the hate flowed like a river, hate it now, then most likely so will everyone else, hate it later then everyone already loves it and you're hating on it's success



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And the worst of it all is that MS hasn't decided yet Kinect's screen of death colour, how can a MS product be more unfinished? 



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darthdevidem01 said:

Sounds disappointing.

Kinect needs word of mouth to make it a massive success....I don't think only marketing will do everything, it never does.


I actually think opposite is true, the marketing is essential if the technical problems are present. Technical problems are more likely to lead to negative word of mouth which in turn will reduce sales.



I really can't see this thing being successfull. With the uninspired games and the technical problems, Kinect really won't go anywhere (IMO). It will have a big launch thanks to the marketing (I can already see infront of me all the threads with xbox-fans yelling about how right they were and how everyone who ever doubted Kinect must be served crow), but will quickly die away after the holidays.



zzamaro said:
hiroko said:

how can nintendo's wii motion control be father ahead than of the move when the move does more and better?



You aren't serious, are you?

"Nintendo is still ahead of the game when it comes to motion sensing, and both Sony and Microsoft still have a long way to go to catch up, but so far Kinect seems like the lame donkey in the race."

It's pretty clear they didn't mean about acurracy.


yes they was going on about the games, but you have to admit move is just coming out and the variety of games coming out for it are crazy, i can't wait for sorcery the most!!