yep ^^

let's make this exciting xD

Funny how anything negative is considered "Mitigating Damages" now.  It was pretty good for awhile, but going the way of the words "Eternal" and "Epic" in video game titles (over used).

Either way, looks like the 360 will stay at or around 100k for at least another week.  Im still thinking 60-70k stabilization until September.  It should stay ahead of the PS3 and Wii until then at least.

Xbox 360 doing GREAT! i Think this holidays Wii wont get any chance in Americas but will Win Eu and Japan... just my 2cents...

So much ganging up and double standards in this thread :S it'z almost bizarre..then again, nothing I wouldn't expect from such individuals either

I'm game.  What are your terms?

Neither can I! Meltdowns are about 40% the reason why I come to this site.

The reason I said that because, rarely does someone with such avatar go lol ps3 fans. Don't mean to offend you. 

how come i get moderated but this bhr 3 guy get to spew lies and hate against the 360 un moderated?

fine i quess he didnt have to get all read the forum rules on me

was just under the assumption that all skus got about 50 taken off there price tag shortly after E3 i remember in 09 the elite and arcade were £199€249 and £159€199 that arcade was up from £129€179

even if not all of EU has the elite to 150 pound 180 euro they still have it pretty close and thats considering it comes with a HDD i was just trying to state why i dont think 3604gb wont have a big impact the prices was one reason i gave and the upcoming kenic bundle being a better value is the other

i dont agree with your prediction that the 360 4gb will get a price cut b/c it kinda already did its down from £159€199 to £149€179 and since it releases near sep when do you think they'll drop it again? ive rarely seen consoles get dropped in price soon after they release

also to note about prices from uk to us

360S £199=$311 $300 off by 11

3604gb £150=$233 $200 off by 33

PS3 120gb £250=$389 $300 off by 89

PS3 250gb £285=445 $350 off by 95

Wii £179=280 $200 off by 80

why is the 360 uk and even euro prices similar to US dollars when converting but for wii and ps3 there not?

For a new home console to make any difference for third parties, Wii 2 will have to be much more powerful than either the PS3 or the 360. 3rd parties do not care about gameplay innovations, as this gen has shown. The money for them is where performance is better. So I honestly don't know what Nintendo is going to do.

Not releasing anything next year would be suicidal, since the console has virtually no more 3rd party support and Nintendo hasn't got many games coming up for it/ isn't willing to localize most of the games. PS3 and 360 could comfortably spend 2-3 more years on the market on the back of all the 3rd party support. Wii has hit the no-return point, from now on it's a downhill road.

But releasing a new console that's not very powerful would be dangerous as well. Third parties will give it the same HD games and that's it. With PS3 and 360 having hit a good price point and already having motion controls, releasing a beefed up Wii would be useless and will lead to massive losses.

The only thing they have left to do is release something truly, really innovative, but also really powerful. Innovative alone won't do it, as seen with the Wii this gen. But innovative and powerful also means expensive, something Nintendo doesn't want. So I think they are in a bit of trouble in deciding what to do next. It's not an easy decision and to really get 3rd party support on their side, they will have to consider these. That is unless they don't want third party support and decide that 1st party games can sustain the company, which is actually what's happening right now, but releasing so few games per year means sales will undoubtedly go down, and they also need to focus on their portable, meaning sales of their home console are indeed not getting help from that fact.

Nintendo will always lose when it comes to third party support wiht their home consoles. I think they must visualize a possible future scenario where their next console will have to sustain itself all by 1st party releases, which means they will have to invest heavily in new studios. Wii could have lasted so much more than 5 years, but lack of support was too much.