While I don't advocate trolling, in this instance I think that it was a matter of pride and griffin hurting shams's ego to which shams replied to by baning him.
It's all good though because we have plenty of other threads to discuss and we should just move on from this little episode.

I don't see anyone banned.

Bah...

Griffin said: I live in Canada and it seems that the wii is impossible to find, i have looked high and low for over two weeks now for one and can't find a single wii anywhere.  Will this lead to the wii being destroyed in sales this christmas by the 360/PS3.  There is less then 4weeks until christmas and i don't think consumers will be holding out forever to find a wii and they will buy a 360/PS3.  Do you guys think that the wii will suffer for just the short term or the long term due to no wii's being available, MS and Sony are really going to cash out this christmas because Nintendo can not meet demand.

 i've never really understood this argument.

if you went to the store and they were out of milk would you just buy soy milk?

if you went to the store and they were out of ipods would you just buy a zune?

if you went to the car dealer and they were out of corolia would you just buy a land cruiser?

 

personally i wouldn't, i know what i want and that's exactly what i would buy.   i just don't get how people can really believe that someone would go to a store and say to themselves, "Geez, I would really like a Wii but I can't find one so I guess I'll just buy a 360/ps3 instead even though it costs more and isn't what I wanted to get."

I think that this problem to the wii won't happen, why? lets see.... most people first check wich system would be the one that most satisfies themselves... in other words, I wouldn't want to buy another system just because is out, am not going to get another system when I know the other will entertain me more. This once happen when I had my gamecube, and I couldn't find SSBM anywhere, I just kept searching till I got it, I wasn't going to get another game.
And I think this happen to most of us.

MattePatte said: Hmm ok so a console that has graphics on par with first generation xbox and that might be considered good for the years 2001-2002 is going to be "industry standard" for years to come? well god save us all is all I can say. Ever heard of HDMI, blue ray, HD-DVD? Forgive me for not being a Wii-fanboy, I really like playing that console with friends but there is nothing industry standard setting without the motion sensing technology it uses and the fact that it is attracting the casual crowd. But of course if the emphasis is to be only on party games and standing up swinging our arms then it sure is the most innovative product of all time.

Shams, you threatened the wrong guy. Well, we pretty much know what HDMI, BD, HD-DVD are. But we also know what gaming is. And it has nothing to do with HDMI, BD and HD-DVD. How long have you been gaming? 2-5 years? Apparently you don't "get it". Anyway, it's far from wawing your hands etc. I suggest you do yourself a favor, buy Wii, and grab SMG and MP3 along. It really teaches you something about the Wii. Wii definately attracts casual gamers, but the people who are interested in it the most, are the "hardcore" gamers and lapsed gamers. @Griffin: Nintendo definately is doing everything they can to raise production, after all, the current production rate is more than 350% the original. Their last ramp up was delayed by 2 months because some supplier couldn't supply enough components. It looks like, they can ramp production by 500k every six months. And about the topic, the question itself is good, but the title was bad. I don't think Nintendo will get hurt, but the shortage definately will help 360 and PS3. People buy consoles as gifts, and if some console isn't in the store, they may buy some other console as a gift (for kids under age of 10, who don't necessarily care and not parents who buy the console, without understanding how important having a certain console may be). But definately PS2 sales will benefit the most from Wii shortages.

kitler53 said: Griffin said: I live in Canada and it seems that the wii is impossible to find, i have looked high and low for over two weeks now for one and can't find a single wii anywhere.  Will this lead to the wii being destroyed in sales this christmas by the 360/PS3.  There is less then 4weeks until christmas and i don't think consumers will be holding out forever to find a wii and they will buy a 360/PS3.  Do you guys think that the wii will suffer for just the short term or the long term due to no wii's being available, MS and Sony are really going to cash out this christmas because Nintendo can not meet demand.   i've never really understood this argument. if you went to the store and they were out of milk would you just buy soy milk? if you went to the store and they were out of ipods would you just buy a zune? if you went to the car dealer and they were out of corolia would you just buy a land cruiser?   personally i wouldn't, i know what i want and that's exactly what i would buy.   i just don't get how people can really believe that someone would go to a store and say to themselves, "Geez, I would really like a Wii but I can't find one so I guess I'll just buy a 360/ps3 instead even though it costs more and isn't what I wanted to get."

Well played. The only people who would opt for a different console if they couldn't find a Wii would be a parent doing christmas shopping. However, ironically, this is the demographic least likely to purchase an expensive console such as a 360 or PS3. So this basically negates itself.

Branko2166 said: While I don't advocate trolling, in this instance I think that it was a matter of pride and griffin hurting shams's ego to which shams replied to by baning him. It's all good though because we have plenty of other threads to discuss and we should just move on from this little episode.

 Again,  I agree with him.

No one is banned it would seem, though, is this something that really needs discussing here? Just PM ioi is there is an issue.

Faxanadu said: MattePatte said: Hmm ok so a console that has graphics on par with first generation xbox and that might be considered good for the years 2001-2002 is going to be "industry standard" for years to come? well god save us all is all I can say. Ever heard of HDMI, blue ray, HD-DVD? Forgive me for not being a Wii-fanboy, I really like playing that console with friends but there is nothing industry standard setting without the motion sensing technology it uses and the fact that it is attracting the casual crowd. But of course if the emphasis is to be only on party games and standing up swinging our arms then it sure is the most innovative product of all time. Technology wise, I doubt the wii will be the industry standard. Control wise I hope it will be.

Indeed if there was a console with the PS3 technology and the Wii controls but still with games that have enough depth to be interesting for more than 5 minutes I would by it in an instant , in other words if there was a way of combining the best features from all 3 consoles (ps3=tech, Wii=controls, 360=games) then there would be no question as to where my money would go, sadly it's a bit too expensive for me to buy all three at the moment at least. Perhaps next generation.