turn based are as much skillful as action mabey more.

main diff is turn based requires more strategy.

I'm going to clear this up. There are Strategy games, Role Playing Games. Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy are <shudder>Role Playing games(that's another topic). Where as games like Fire Emblem are Strategy. Borderlands is a FPS, but Borderlands adds story. leveling, skills to the game. FE adds leveling and unique abilities to the Units. But giving a Unit a name does not make it more a Role Playing game.

So i'm up for calling the melding of games as Strategy RPG or FPS RPG. I'm good. That's not a problem, but there is a divergence.

FF and DQ are about only choosing actions of Damage, Status, Defend Flee and the choices end their.
FE, FFT are games where positioning, Unit strength and specialty make a significance difference. Flank attacks are usually more power, etc, etc....

No one is saying that FE, FFT.... should become action based because they are RPG. There not. They are Strategy games. The Western world is happy with Turn based strategy. Turns don't bug Western audiences. Puzzle Quest vs has turns. Monopoly has turns. Tons of games have turns.

The Western world has problems with adopting RPG with turns because turns were early on dropped from most WRPG that aren't tactical. The Tactics present in the general JRPG are very traditional and relativly non tactical(as Soriku pointed out). I'm not saying people don't enjoy it. Please do, but it's not about enojyment. It's about why SE doesn't get why NA don't like DQ Combat. How do I know this. Fallout. Fallout is a 100% blend of solid RPG and turn based tactical combat. Not only that Fallout Trilogy outsold Fallout 3(action game) for part of a year. Yeah turn based game beat action. Why? because it's a proper tactical game. DQ Combat model is a very shallow combat game in regards to tactics.

In what JRPG can the hero sneak up to the villian, plant an active timebomb and sneak out? That's a tactical RPG.

its just always been like that, the western gamers tend to prefer action games while the eastern gamers prefer strategy in their games.

Soriku is right

I had so much struggle tryin to beat sephiroth in KH2 but then I just went to eat somethin and when I came back, I kept blockin his attack at the right time or dodging him and counter attack. I had struggle so much but then beat him pretty easily cuz the fight was all about skills. If u play a turn based the combat is always gonna look the same when you know the techniques to beat the boss.

Turn-based takes skills to figure out the right strategy to beat a boss but with action even if u know the right strategy, its 10 times harder to execute it.

is fxii action? I thought all the final fantasies were turn based. Might have to try it out then

I prefer action games like Tales of Symphonia, where it requires a lot of skill to play. I very much hate the action style of games like Tales of Vesperia where you can run around and easily dodge every attack, then go in for a hit, and run again like a pansy. I much prefer the quick reflexes it took in ToS to block and super block.

Reviewers by and large had no issues with the turn based gameplay of Valkyria Chronicles.  There's more to it than the battle system simply being turnd based.

Ninja GAIDEN is the best action RPG EVER? followed by DMC and god of war ofc :)

I like both TB and Action RPGs!

btw, what category does Paper Mario fit into? (the original ones on N64 & Gamecube)

Turn-based.

And it was awesome!