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steverhcp02 on 09 July 2010
Seece said:
steverhcp02 said:


I understand bias. Im not even saying i dont enjoy the reviews here, if you refer to my first post i said i dont have a problem with them. I even feel Seece's reviews are spot on and great reads.

My main point is credibility. I feel its unfair for you to brush of my substance and say i just dont like Seece when you dont even know whether we have had interactions or anything. To a lot of us regulars we get a feel for posting styles and personalities. A lot of the ocntributors here were posters long before they were contributors. But they never really changed.

I guess i was just thinking via typing i just feel the place has always never gotten the respects its deserved because a lot of the people that are contributors dont act professionally in the forums or even in some articles. There was even an incident involving neogaf which i wont mention because i was threatened to be permabanned for talking about how unprofessional i thought it was....and it reflects poorly on the site as a whole

VGC is finally getting recognized like it should but some things i feel are limiting the exposure.

The majority of my "outspoken" posts, I do check with at least one mod (normally head mod himself) if it's ok to post, if it isn't I tone it down or simply don't post it at all.

I never break any rules, I just get into heated debates/discussion. I don't see anything wrong with that personally, though I will admit I need to stop focusing on petty arguments with certain users, the majority are now blocked and as long as they leave me alone I'll try hard to keep away.

That said, I don't think Meta cares about arguments from staff, more so pathetic insults against his website like "metadarlings" ...

that was just .. ugh

Yeah, im not gonna lie, there was a long time a while i ago i got you and Selnor confused all the time, haha, but i dont want you to think im trashing you or anything, man.

Like i said, this place deserves so much more than its getting as far as respect and industry recognition, im just expressing, from a consumer standpoint, what i feel are turnoffs, in general.

Im not even talking about cred. to get on Meta. Im saying what about posters at IGN, Neogaf, N4G anywhere, this place could easily get them to migrate here with everything you guys do and offer....but its beating a dead horse why i feel there are obstacles.




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Torillian on 09 July 2010

I agree that staff should be held to a higher standard than regular users on the forums and I think for the most part they are.  Every now and then something falls through the cracks but no system is perfect.

I disagree with the idea that Metacritic would care about these transgressions for adding our reviews on the site.   They have probably never even read the forums tbh.



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steverhcp02 on 09 July 2010
kowenicki said:
steverhcp02 said:


I kind of agree and disagree at the same time.  I thought that particular editorial was poor, in almost every respect.  BUT it was an editortial... and thats what an editrorial is...  its an opinion piece.

I totally disagree with you about the forum activity of "contributors".  It is of no consequence in my opinion... so long as that bahaviour doesn't wash over into their actual site contributions.  

Lots of  people here would categorise me as having a bias... (I'm so mis-understood!  )  but my articles are anything but biased.  They are factual and neutral.    Aas far as reviews are concerned; well there I'd challenge you to find any reviewer that doesn't have a bias or favoured console/developer/genre on all review sites.

haha. Your articles are a perfect example of what im talking about. You are biased, and thats fine i understand that, hell i even respect it a lot more because you argue your cases (usually :P) very well, and your articles are beyond great. The analysis and Mind the Gap are one of the things i love reading.....but i fear some people would brush it off too soon "its kowenicki that guy only cares about the 360" 

As for the editorial, i dont care if its opinion, those kinds of comments should not be posted in a "professional" piece. I dont have a problem with the opinion of the editorial, i had a problem with the word choice and slight at Eberts cancer.

You dont need to challenge me to find an unbiased reviewer. Im not requesting such or thing or expecting one, as ive said Seece is insanely biased but also i feel hes one of th ebest if not the best reviewers this site has, but i feel in general its a turn off to people and it reflects onto the site poorly.

Also your comment above "take that N4G and NeoGaf" I mean whats the point? It just seems juvenile, doesnt it? This place is moving forward like its always deserved, why even bother with that kind of crap? It just seems you guys should be above it and instead it sounds bitter and its trivial, imo.

I hear you...

But I don't think the VAST majority of sensible people take that kind of thing anywhere near as seriously as you imagine.

It's mostly harmless banter.  I do think there is a real problem with forums in general, the internet over, that peope take it all far too seriously.


Yeah we both know how shitty these forums have become. But that says something about what this place offers that its still growing and we still keep coming back.

I guess youre right, most people dont care about it or view it how i do, but thats no reason why i shouldnt lower my expectations for this community or website, ya know?

There should be a 500 post minimum for thread starting, and a 2 week period between posting and opening an account if thats even possible. Require avatars and a bio, really make sure people who are registering are doing so to be active and contribute. haha, this is too off topic now.

Good news about the numbers though, haha.




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yo_john117 on 09 July 2010
GodOfWar_3ever said:

We are on gamerankings, right ? We should be on Meta rather soon me thinks.

What? when did this happen?



Boutros on 09 July 2010
yo_john117 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

We are on gamerankings, right ? We should be on Meta rather soon me thinks.

What? when did this happen?


http://www.gamerankings.com/sites/1599-vgchartz/index.html



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yo_john117 on 09 July 2010
Boutros said:
yo_john117 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

We are on gamerankings, right ? We should be on Meta rather soon me thinks.

What? when did this happen?


http://www.gamerankings.com/sites/1599-vgchartz/index.html

Awesome!!!



toMsons7551 on 12 July 2010
yo_john117 said:

Its kind of retarded that they will use Vgchartz sales numbers but won't use their reviews.


Not really, gotta use what is known to be exceptional. VGC isn't known for its reviews, actually gives "bad" reviews IMO compared to other sites. Little to biased.



Kantor on 16 July 2010
toMsons7551 said:
yo_john117 said:

Its kind of retarded that they will use Vgchartz sales numbers but won't use their reviews.


Not really, gotta use what is known to be exceptional. VGC isn't known for its reviews, actually gives "bad" reviews IMO compared to other sites. Little to biased.

Biased? Excuse me?

Just because we have tastes different to the norm (as does most of this site), doesn't mean we are biased in any way.



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