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mike_intellivision on 07 July 2010

My beta invite came while I was on vacation. I will have to look at it.

But I plan to try it on my work laptop -- only Win 7 machine I have. And I get 16 Mps on my wireless.

 

Mike from Morgantown



      


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I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

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nightsurge on 07 July 2010

I had an email from a while ago but hadn't signed up yet.  Just signed up today so we will see if I get accepted into this Founding Members program.  I have amazing internet so hopefully I do.

Now, what about local multiplayer?  I assume if you want to play Borderlands with 4 people at your house you will need 4 controllers.  Can 1 OnLive console thing handle that or will you need 4 OnLive consoles, 4 OnLive controllers, 4 OnLive subscriptiosn, and 4 TV's?

I will render some more objective views once I get in the service.  I am a heavy console gamer with mild PC gaming involved and I still can't see how this service will work without introducing some very serious input lag, but we shall wait and see.



vlad321 on 07 July 2010
richardhutnik said:
Soleron said:
Mr Puggsly said:
NJ5 said:

One more thing... I just opened Onlive's system requirements page, and saw this:

"If you are using a low-performance computer, like a netbook, you may also experience high latency."

I do remember that one of the original selling points was "omg crysis on a netbook". I suppose that the decompression algorithms are actually quite CPU-intensive.

Did anyone here try it on a netbook?


They use it on a netbook torwards the end of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtwaH4g3Kk4

Can you just acknowledge that Ontario exists (and renders OnLive obsolete)? I'll shut up and go away then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed3InAJhh2k

And if I say, "Can you acknowledge that consoles provide enough horsepower now for people that it renders PC gaming as not relevant?"  Would you acknowledge that?  You argument that somehow Ontario is the end all and be all for gaming, is pushing it.  For you to stand on that is to say there isn't a need for any updating of graphics at all on a PC.  And then I could say, "well then why bother with that over consoles?"  I don't get the same level of headaches with consoles as I do with PC gaming, and it works.

And then your 360 or PS3 dies, or yoru game doesn't work so it needs to be patched, or the online service is down, or really absolutely all the headaches on the PC are on the consoles except for installation file structures. In fact the console failure rate seems to be even worse than the PC one.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

nightsurge on 07 July 2010
vlad321 said:
richardhutnik said:
Soleron said:
Mr Puggsly said:
NJ5 said:

One more thing... I just opened Onlive's system requirements page, and saw this:

"If you are using a low-performance computer, like a netbook, you may also experience high latency."

I do remember that one of the original selling points was "omg crysis on a netbook". I suppose that the decompression algorithms are actually quite CPU-intensive.

Did anyone here try it on a netbook?


They use it on a netbook torwards the end of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtwaH4g3Kk4

Can you just acknowledge that Ontario exists (and renders OnLive obsolete)? I'll shut up and go away then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed3InAJhh2k

And if I say, "Can you acknowledge that consoles provide enough horsepower now for people that it renders PC gaming as not relevant?"  Would you acknowledge that?  You argument that somehow Ontario is the end all and be all for gaming, is pushing it.  For you to stand on that is to say there isn't a need for any updating of graphics at all on a PC.  And then I could say, "well then why bother with that over consoles?"  I don't get the same level of headaches with consoles as I do with PC gaming, and it works.

And then your 360 or PS3 dies, or yoru game doesn't work so it needs to be patched, or the online service is down, or really absolutely all the headaches on the PC are on the consoles except for installation file structures. In fact the console failure rate seems to be even worse than the PC one.

Not true at all.  PC failure rate is quite extensively higher.  This is due to the fact that PCs are configured by millions of combinations of custom parts that each have their own failure rate and when a single piece fails the whole system is then broken for the time being.  With consoles they use a very select few parts that are refined and manufactured at a much larger scale.



vlad321 on 07 July 2010
nightsurge said:

Not true at all.  PC failure rate is quite extensively higher.  This is due to the fact that PCs are configured by millions of combinations of custom parts that each have their own failure rate and when a single piece fails the whole system is then broken for the time being.  With consoles they use a very select few parts that are refined and manufactured at a much larger scale.


Cut it whicever way you want the 360 RROD problem has a much higher chance of happening than anything that can ail a PC.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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nightsurge on 07 July 2010
vlad321 said:
nightsurge said:

Not true at all.  PC failure rate is quite extensively higher.  This is due to the fact that PCs are configured by millions of combinations of custom parts that each have their own failure rate and when a single piece fails the whole system is then broken for the time being.  With consoles they use a very select few parts that are refined and manufactured at a much larger scale.


Cut it whicever way you want the 360 RROD problem has a much higher chance of happening than anything that can ail a PC.

Nope.  Not by a long shot.  Especially since the RROD on Jasper and the new 360 revision failure rates are well in line with electronic standards of 3% or less.  PC's on the other hand have a 30-60% failure rate within 3 years.



vlad321 on 07 July 2010
nightsurge said:
vlad321 said:
nightsurge said:

Not true at all.  PC failure rate is quite extensively higher.  This is due to the fact that PCs are configured by millions of combinations of custom parts that each have their own failure rate and when a single piece fails the whole system is then broken for the time being.  With consoles they use a very select few parts that are refined and manufactured at a much larger scale.


Cut it whicever way you want the 360 RROD problem has a much higher chance of happening than anything that can ail a PC.

Nope.  Not by a long shot.  Especially since the RROD on Jasper and the new 360 revision failure rates are well in line with electronic standards of 3% or less.  PC's on the other hand have a 30-60% failure rate within 3 years.


That's actually a full of shit statistic. The only way you could get a PC to fall apart within 3 years is if you boght a notebook from Dell between 2003 and 2005.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

nightsurge on 07 July 2010
vlad321 said:
nightsurge said:
vlad321 said:
nightsurge said:

Not true at all.  PC failure rate is quite extensively higher.  This is due to the fact that PCs are configured by millions of combinations of custom parts that each have their own failure rate and when a single piece fails the whole system is then broken for the time being.  With consoles they use a very select few parts that are refined and manufactured at a much larger scale.


Cut it whicever way you want the 360 RROD problem has a much higher chance of happening than anything that can ail a PC.

Nope.  Not by a long shot.  Especially since the RROD on Jasper and the new 360 revision failure rates are well in line with electronic standards of 3% or less.  PC's on the other hand have a 30-60% failure rate within 3 years.


That's actually a full of shit statistic. The only way you could get a PC to fall apart within 3 years is if you boght a notebook from Dell between 2003 and 2005.

Lol, no it is quite a realistic and supported statistic.  The one you just said, though, is "full of shit".

http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_laptop_reliability_1109.pdf



vlad321 on 07 July 2010
nightsurge said:
vlad321 said:
nightsurge said:
vlad321 said:
nightsurge said:

Not true at all.  PC failure rate is quite extensively higher.  This is due to the fact that PCs are configured by millions of combinations of custom parts that each have their own failure rate and when a single piece fails the whole system is then broken for the time being.  With consoles they use a very select few parts that are refined and manufactured at a much larger scale.


Cut it whicever way you want the 360 RROD problem has a much higher chance of happening than anything that can ail a PC.

Nope.  Not by a long shot.  Especially since the RROD on Jasper and the new 360 revision failure rates are well in line with electronic standards of 3% or less.  PC's on the other hand have a 30-60% failure rate within 3 years.


That's actually a full of shit statistic. The only way you could get a PC to fall apart within 3 years is if you boght a notebook from Dell between 2003 and 2005.

Lol, no it is quite a realistic and supported statistic.  The one you just said, though, is "full of shit".

http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_laptop_reliability_1109.pdf

So... laptop data? Any actual PC data to back up your claim or no?



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

nightsurge on 07 July 2010
vlad321 said:
nightsurge said:
vlad321 said:
nightsurge said:
vlad321 said:
nightsurge said:

Not true at all.  PC failure rate is quite extensively higher.  This is due to the fact that PCs are configured by millions of combinations of custom parts that each have their own failure rate and when a single piece fails the whole system is then broken for the time being.  With consoles they use a very select few parts that are refined and manufactured at a much larger scale.


Cut it whicever way you want the 360 RROD problem has a much higher chance of happening than anything that can ail a PC.

Nope.  Not by a long shot.  Especially since the RROD on Jasper and the new 360 revision failure rates are well in line with electronic standards of 3% or less.  PC's on the other hand have a 30-60% failure rate within 3 years.


That's actually a full of shit statistic. The only way you could get a PC to fall apart within 3 years is if you boght a notebook from Dell between 2003 and 2005.

Lol, no it is quite a realistic and supported statistic.  The one you just said, though, is "full of shit".

http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_laptop_reliability_1109.pdf

So... laptop data? Any actual PC data to back up your claim or no?

Not anything that recent that I could find with a quick google search.  Probably because laptops are far outselling desktops these days.

Any data whatsoever to backup your claims?  I'd especially like to see RROD data on Jasper or newer 360s and data on Desktop PC's having a 0% failure rate within 3 years.