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Khuutra on 16 October 2010
Soleron said:

Is Week 6 too soon to call that?

The public has definitely sent a message that they don't want this kind of Metroid in future. I'm happy about that. Whether Nintendo takes that in the right way (i.e. going back to either NES Metroid or Metroid Prime style games, which sell well) remains to be seen.

I also think Malstrom was right here (on this specific issue, not everything he says). He's been skeptical since the announcement about its quality and sales potential, long before anyone else could see it. I didn't believe him until I saw how much focus there was on cinematic and narrative, a few months ago.

I do not believe it is too soon, no, especially if NPD numbers for first month in the Americas is true. If they are, then this game crashed and burned in the States as badly as it did in Europe, and could be sitting at 375k - worldwide - right now.



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Roar_Of_War on 16 October 2010
Khuutra said:
Soleron said:

Is Week 6 too soon to call that?

The public has definitely sent a message that they don't want this kind of Metroid in future. I'm happy about that. Whether Nintendo takes that in the right way (i.e. going back to either NES Metroid or Metroid Prime style games, which sell well) remains to be seen.

I also think Malstrom was right here (on this specific issue, not everything he says). He's been skeptical since the announcement about its quality and sales potential, long before anyone else could see it. I didn't believe him until I saw how much focus there was on cinematic and narrative, a few months ago.

I do not believe it is too soon, no, especially if NPD numbers for first month in the Americas is true. If they are, then this game crashed and burned in the States as badly as it did in Europe, and could be sitting at 375k - worldwide - right now.


Wait, are you telling me Metroid: Other M is overtracked? Where did you hear that?



Khuutra on 16 October 2010
Roar_Of_War said:
Khuutra said:
Soleron said:

Is Week 6 too soon to call that?

The public has definitely sent a message that they don't want this kind of Metroid in future. I'm happy about that. Whether Nintendo takes that in the right way (i.e. going back to either NES Metroid or Metroid Prime style games, which sell well) remains to be seen.

I also think Malstrom was right here (on this specific issue, not everything he says). He's been skeptical since the announcement about its quality and sales potential, long before anyone else could see it. I didn't believe him until I saw how much focus there was on cinematic and narrative, a few months ago.

I do not believe it is too soon, no, especially if NPD numbers for first month in the Americas is true. If they are, then this game crashed and burned in the States as badly as it did in Europe, and could be sitting at 375k - worldwide - right now.

Wait, are you telling me Metroid: Other M is overtracked? Where did you hear that?

NPD numbers placed it at something less than 180k in the month of September, which included its launch days. We had it at more than that in its first week.



xupaxupa on 17 October 2010
darkgemini said:
Khuutra said:
darkgemini said:

@ khuutra. This interview is your proof? Sorry but this is no evidence, he said they wanted to expand the audience to about 1,5-2 Mio. he don´t say, this should be in the US alone, so where´s your evidence?  Where are the 3 million unit sold, they had expected? You don´t proof this, either. You make a wrong interpretation, because he don´t say clearly to reach your numbers in the US or worldwirde.   That is only your interpretation!  it is only one interview where he said, that they want to reach 1,5 to 2 Mio. Nothing more, nothing less. Sorry, but I concider something else than this as facts...

In the past, Reggie has always spoken specifically about US sales numbers (including his infamous NSMBWii vs. CoD:MW2 prediction). That's because he's the president of Nintendo of America. Historical precedence is evidence enough.

And no, you odn't have a valid alternative, by your own standards, unless you present a better source of "evidence"

Sorry, maybe it´s because I´m working at court and we have in europe another understanding about the word "evidence", but what somebody said sometimes has NO reference to an actual declaration. I have to proof nothing, because I have said a lot of times. Let´s see how the game will sell. YOU have to proof something, because you are convinced, that metroid is a failure, without knowing how it will sell the next months... And this interview, where you only interpret (!) something about something he said months ago, sorry, but I wish you good look to convince somebode ^^

Metroid Other M is at least 70% below in sales than Metroid Prime 3, the last Metroid (using VGChartz numbers, which seems to be overtracked for Other M). If there is any burden of proof here is for people who defend it can still be a success.



xupaxupa on 17 October 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
Khuutra said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Khuutra said:

Darth how much do you know about the development of this game? Like the guys they got to make the (lengthy and gorgeous) FMVs?

Ok FMV's will add in a few hundred thousand.

But it will have made a profit eventually.....I can't see it needing more than 600K for a profit.

Its not done well by profit wise but I don't think it'll be a loss maker, I am too stubborn to accept that.

The point I'm getting at is this:

The investment here was enormous for a Metroid game.

It looks like it's going to be the lowest-selling mainline Metroid ever released, including Echoes on the Gamecube.

This don't look good.

Ok it does look bad.

But I don't understand why this happened, how did we get to the stage that Nintendo's most successful console in years is seeing the lowest selling Metroid game I do not know.


http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2009/06/20/email-idiotic-metroid-comments-on-your-blog-and-why-malstrom-sucks/



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darkgemini on 18 October 2010

Yes, I always compare 6-week sales with lifetime sales -.-



Aiddon on 18 October 2010
darkgemini said:

Yes, I always compare 6-week sales with lifetime sales -.-


hey, this is gaming, we always like bragging about how games fail even if they could cause a series to go into stasis and cause us all sorts of grief



xupaxupa on 18 October 2010
Aiddon said:
darkgemini said:

Yes, I always compare 6-week sales with lifetime sales -.-


hey, this is gaming, we always like bragging about how games fail even if they could cause a series to go into stasis and cause us all sorts of grief

Don't really care about the success or failure of a game I had nothing to do with. But it still pains me to see people supporting a position not through evidence, but mostly with wishful thinking (after they brag about "evidence" and "burden of proof").



darkgemini on 18 October 2010

I have no problem to admit a game flops, when its time ;) I´m not overhasty like some others :p



xupaxupa on 18 October 2010
darkgemini said:

I have no problem to admit a game flops, when its time ;) I´m not overhasty like some others :p

So, it seems you think that the game will be successful, given more time. If that's the case, how are you defining the success of Other M (e.g.: how many sales over how much time), and what reasons do you have to think that it will go that way, since current data seems to point otherwise?