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darthdevidem01 said:

Could it instead be possible our site has overtracked the Prime games?

Making Reggie correct in the end?


1) Old vgchartz numbers are from financial statements

2) Other independent sources have Prime higher than Reggie states

3) The numbers for Super Metroid or a good few other Metroid games in addition to Metroid Prime from both vgchartz and other sources would have to be wrong for Reggie to be factually correct.



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darthdevidem01 said:

Could it instead be possible our site has overtracked the Prime games?

Making Reggie correct in the end?

THe short answer is "no". Those legacy numbers are more concrete than any other numbers on the site. They're absolutely correct.



Khuutra said:
jarrod said:

Reggied was obviously talking about the REAL Metroids.  So Metroid 1-4, not those Retroid spinoffz. ;)

Ignoring Retroids, Super Metroid was outsold worldwide by Metroid, Metroid II, and Metroid Fusion.

In the US alone it was outsold by the same games, while actually being tied by Metroid Prime Hunter.

Technically the original Metroid sold less, due to being split between two platforms.  Metroid FDS sold 1.35m (VGC) and Metroid NES sold 1.38m (VGC). :P

I wasn't paying attention about Super Metroid though, did Reggie refer to that?



jarrod said:
Khuutra said:
jarrod said:

Reggied was obviously talking about the REAL Metroids.  So Metroid 1-4, not those Retroid spinoffz. ;)

Ignoring Retroids, Super Metroid was outsold worldwide by Metroid, Metroid II, and Metroid Fusion.

In the US alone it was outsold by the same games, while actually being tied by Metroid Prime Hunter.

Technically the original Metroid sold less, due to being split between two platforms.  Metroid FDS sold 1.35m (VGC) and Metroid NES sold 1.38m (VGC). :P

I wasn't paying attention about Super Metroid though, did Reggie refer to that?

Yes, he said that games hadn't broken the 1.5-2 million bar since the SNES, when Super Metroid did not break that bar.



A game I'm developing with some friends:

www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

Khuutra said:
darkgemini said:

@ khuutra. This interview is your proof? Sorry but this is no evidence, he said they wanted to expand the audience to about 1,5-2 Mio. he don´t say, this should be in the US alone, so where´s your evidence?  Where are the 3 million unit sold, they had expected? You don´t proof this, either. You make a wrong interpretation, because he don´t say clearly to reach your numbers in the US or worldwirde.   That is only your interpretation!  it is only one interview where he said, that they want to reach 1,5 to 2 Mio. Nothing more, nothing less. Sorry, but I concider something else than this as facts...

In the past, Reggie has always spoken specifically about US sales numbers (including his infamous NSMBWii vs. CoD:MW2 prediction). That's because he's the president of Nintendo of America. Historical precedence is evidence enough.

And no, you odn't have a valid alternative, by your own standards, unless you present a better source of "evidence"

Sorry, maybe it´s because I´m working at court and we have in europe another understanding about the word "evidence", but what somebody said sometimes has NO reference to an actual declaration. I have to proof nothing, because I have said a lot of times. Let´s see how the game will sell. YOU have to proof something, because you are convinced, that metroid is a failure, without knowing how it will sell the next months... And this interview, where you only interpret (!) something about something he said months ago, sorry, but I wish you good look to convince somebode ^^



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 “Metroid is a key franchise, and in our view really since the SNES Metroid, we haven’t broken through in terms of 1.5 - 2 millions units. That’s our bar. That’s the scale that we look at to say on a GLOBAL basis this is effective.

GLOBAL=WORLDWIDE so in essence Nintendo's goal was only 1.5-2 M and that was their goal to attain since Nintendo acknowledges that is the bar for Metroid had failed to reach for quite sometime!!! Metroid Prime's number is bloated sorry Nintendo fanboys...I'm a Nintendo fan but even I admit that Prime's number was bloated because of console budles, a free holiday promotion, and being a player's choice for a couple of years (which Corruption and Othe M will never have the chance to have)!!!



oni-link said:

 “Metroid is a key franchise, and in our view really since the SNES Metroid, we haven’t broken through in terms of 1.5 - 2 millions units. That’s our bar. That’s the scale that we look at to say on a GLOBAL basis this is effective.

GLOBAL=WORLDWIDE so in essence Nintendo's goal was only 1.5-2 M and that was their goal to attain since Nintendo acknowledges that is the bar for Metroid had failed to reach for quite sometime!!! Metroid Prime's number is bloated sorry Nintendo fanboys...I'm a Nintendo fan but even I admit that Prime's number was bloated because of console budles, a free holiday promotion, and being a player's choice for a couple of years (which Corruption and Othe M will never have the chance to have)!!!


Yeah, that's the statement, the one that's factually incorrect in two ways. Repeating it over and over again isn't going to suddenly make it factual.



A game I'm developing with some friends:

www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

Other M is overtracked in NA (most probably)

It is 3rd on the VGchartz for the month

but 9th on NPD

 



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darthdevidem01 said:

Other M is overtracked in NA (most probably)

It is 3rd on the VGchartz for the month

but 9th on NPD

 


Hey, quit stealing my jerb.



A game I'm developing with some friends:

www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

Demotruk said:
darthdevidem01 said:

Other M is overtracked in NA (most probably)

It is 3rd on the VGchartz for the month

but 9th on NPD

 


Hey, quit stealing my jerb.

I had to post it before you or Khuutra had the satisfaction of continuing to bash this very good game!

Its a sad thing it hasn't sold well at all, I just don't understand why its almost "bombed" like this....I won't say its bombed cus its surely made a profit.



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