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@Foxtail(EDIT:forgot to quote you, sorry!): Haha. Nah, you shouldn't be afraid. It's just a game afterall :3 Just be concerned. It should be obvious to anyone that it isn't doing all too well right now, unless they have very low expectations from Metroid's performance..



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@ khuutra. This interview is your proof? Sorry but this is no evidence, he said they wanted to expand the audience to about 1,5-2 Mio. he don´t say, this should be in the US alone, so where´s your evidence?  Where are the 3 million unit sold, they had expected? You don´t proof this, either. You make a wrong interpretation, because he don´t say clearly to reach your numbers in the US or worldwirde.   That is only your interpretation!  it is only one interview where he said, that they want to reach 1,5 to 2 Mio. Nothing more, nothing less. Sorry, but I concider something else than this as facts...



darkgemini said:

@ khuutra. This interview is your proof? Sorry but this is no evidence, he said they wanted to expand the audience to about 1,5-2 Mio. he don´t say, this should be in the US alone, so where´s your evidence?  Where are the 3 million unit sold, they had expected? You don´t proof this, either. You make a wrong interpretation, it is only one interview where he said, that they want to reach 1,5 to 2 Mio. Nothing more, nothing less. 


Lol. Instead of discussing the numbers, people are discussing that after all Nintendo did not *predict* as much sales as we thought. What does that matter? It does not change that most predictions from people here were way over the top.



Roar_Of_War said:
oni-link said:
Khuutra said:

To prove the point that Reggie WAS talking about US only, here are all the collected sales numbers for the Metroid series so far:

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Metroid&publisher=&console=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

You will note that legacy numbers - those for Gamecube era and before - are based on financial reports from Nintendo. They are absolutely accurate.

Metroid Prime sold 1.98 million units in the US. It's the only game to sell over 1.5 million in the US. The 2 million barrier in the US has never been broken, which is perfectly in keeping with his prior statement.

Ergo, he expected Other M to outsell the original Prime - at least in the US.

Which, yes, means that Other M has so far set course to fail to meet sales expectations.

EDIT:

And while I'm on this point, I'm going to point out that Corruption sold 0.9 million in the US! Which means that if Other M was expected to break the 1.5-2 million barrier in the US (which it was, according to Reggie) then yes, it was expected to double Corruption's sales numbers in the US.

So your telling me you still haven't found the quote you said Reggie expected Other M to beat Prime and the best you could do is ASSume that's what he meant!!!  Okay then I'm done with you...movin' on!!!

Metroid: Other M is not selling well. It is doing average in America, and bad everywhere else, and guess what? Every single week Other M continues to decline. Every. Single. Week. I'm also judging the decline by comparing it to Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, which only sold averagely itself for a big Metroid title. Other M is doing worse than an average Metroid game (in terms of sales). It doesn't matter what Reggie or Nintendo said they wanted from the game in terms of sales - We have eyes. We can see for ourselves. We can determine what "success" means for ourselves. We can determine what failure means as well. Other M, at its current rate at least, would be lucky to make it to a million sales lifetime. It doesn't matter if they meant 1.5-2 million sales in US or worldwide; it isn't going to reach that in either category.

 

When Donkey Kong Country Returns is released, Other M will practically cease to exist. There isn't much hope for Other M in the holidays at all. I haven't even mentioned the competition it'll get from other consoles, either. Stop trying to feel safe about Metroid, because you should feel very, very concerned.

You are serious?

Corruption is the 4th best selling Metroid Game and you say it sold bad?

 

And Other M is already beating Corruption sales in japan, so it´s not doing bad everywhere :p Only europe so far :(

 

I´m not doing the mistake to judge about the success of a game after 6 weeks :o Sorry, but this decission can be made, WHEN he have the lifetime numbers. .... Everything else is just a prediction!



darkgemini said:

@ khuutra. This interview is your proof? Sorry but this is no evidence, he said they wanted to expand the audience to about 1,5-2 Mio. he don´t say, this should be in the US alone, so where´s your evidence?  Where are the 3 million unit sold, they had expected? You don´t proof this, either. You make a wrong interpretation, because he don´t say clearly to reach your numbers in the US or worldwirde.   That is only your interpretation!  it is only one interview where he said, that they want to reach 1,5 to 2 Mio. Nothing more, nothing less. Sorry, but I concider something else than this as facts...

In the past, Reggie has always spoken specifically about US sales numbers (including his infamous NSMBWii vs. CoD:MW2 prediction). That's because he's the president of Nintendo of America. Historical precedence is evidence enough.

And no, you odn't have a valid alternative, by your own standards, unless you present a better source of "evidence"



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I am of the opinion that Reggie's comment should be disregarded. It was factually incorrect in two ways as has been proven here, 1) SNES was not the peak but a low point for Metroid sales, and 2) Metroid has broken through the 1.5 - 2 million barrier on a worldwide basis. Maybe he didn't have his weetabix on the morning of the interview, but if he had his facts wrong it makes anything else he says on the subject at that point less credible.



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It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

Khuutra said:
darkgemini said:

@ khuutra. This interview is your proof? Sorry but this is no evidence, he said they wanted to expand the audience to about 1,5-2 Mio. he don´t say, this should be in the US alone, so where´s your evidence?  Where are the 3 million unit sold, they had expected? You don´t proof this, either. You make a wrong interpretation, because he don´t say clearly to reach your numbers in the US or worldwirde.   That is only your interpretation!  it is only one interview where he said, that they want to reach 1,5 to 2 Mio. Nothing more, nothing less. Sorry, but I concider something else than this as facts...

In the past, Reggie has always spoken specifically about US sales numbers (including his infamous NSMBWii vs. CoD:MW2 prediction). That's because he's the president of Nintendo of America. Historical precedence is evidence enough.

And no, you odn't have a valid alternative, by your own standards, unless you present a better source of "evidence"


He explicitly said "that's our bar,.. on a worldwide basis that's what we view as effective".



A game I'm developing with some friends:

www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

I'm not sure I agree with that, Demotruk; regardless of whether or not his reasons were wrong, I don't imagine htat he spoke incorrectly concerning sales expectations for Other M - namely in that it was supposed to sell higher than other Metroids that came before it, particularly in the US.



Demotruk said:
Khuutra said:
darkgemini said:

@ khuutra. This interview is your proof? Sorry but this is no evidence, he said they wanted to expand the audience to about 1,5-2 Mio. he don´t say, this should be in the US alone, so where´s your evidence?  Where are the 3 million unit sold, they had expected? You don´t proof this, either. You make a wrong interpretation, because he don´t say clearly to reach your numbers in the US or worldwirde.   That is only your interpretation!  it is only one interview where he said, that they want to reach 1,5 to 2 Mio. Nothing more, nothing less. Sorry, but I concider something else than this as facts...

In the past, Reggie has always spoken specifically about US sales numbers (including his infamous NSMBWii vs. CoD:MW2 prediction). That's because he's the president of Nintendo of America. Historical precedence is evidence enough.

And no, you odn't have a valid alternative, by your own standards, unless you present a better source of "evidence"

He explicitly said "that's our bar,.. on a worldwide basis that's what we view as effective".

Ah. I guess you got me, then; he was clearly wrong on that front, but if that's the case then Other M will fail to meet expectations regardless, both in cited absolute numbers and in outselling other Metroids.



Could it instead be possible our site has overtracked the Prime games?

Making Reggie correct in the end?



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