The success of Kinect will be entirely dependent upon the quality of software support (stating the obvious here).

Failing that, they could still have a decent level of success simply based upon sheer volume, which will include a lot of bad, quickly developed titles (shovelware) that many will buy anyway because they will provide a decent level of entertainment in party settings.

But hands free controls are not the be all end all of anything. For a lot of genres of games you NEED physical controls. The whole idea that a player can accept pantomiming ANYTHING to make a game work is wishful thinking at best.

The thought of piloting almost anything, be it a plane, helicopter or automobile by playing Video Mime is kind of weak. Maybe novel at first, but realistically, pretty weak if you play for hours.

In the case of Kinect, the use of props is something that needs to be supported, even if it means another wave of cheap plastic pieces made by third party peripheral developers for use with Kinect.

For driving, I would rather have a steering wheel in my hands. Preferably an actual mounted steering wheel controller with gear shifter, clutch, brake pedal and accelerator mounted on a frame with a bucket seat, but that's just not practical, space or cost-wise for anyone who isn't very serious about driving simulators. But rocking my hands like I'm holding an imaginary steering wheel is even worse than holding a Wii Remote sideways (without the donut attachment).

And no air guitars. I would rather use a mini sized fake plastic guitar if I can't use a real guitar in a game.

The thought of using Kinect for any first person shooter games (or any shooters for that matter) is pretty much as it's been said: playing cowboys and indians in the first grade with finger guns. If anyone wants to use Kinect for shooters, at least support the use of prop guns and hopefully Kinect is actually precise enough to detect trigger finger squeezes at all angles or it just won't work at all.

What Kinect is ideal for are dance games (arguably the best demo of the conference) and fitness games, and other games that require accurate tracking of body poses and movement. Theater games, stage acting, and a lot of sports games (ones that won't require running in place) should also work well.

So it's not a total burn, but there are definitely a lot of games that I simply wouldn't want to play without some sort of fine precision control.

And yes, you will look like you're having an epileptic seizure playing a lot of Kinetic games, but who cares; I know a lot of you play in your underwear, away from prying eyes anyway.

More like Kevin Butthurt after Kinect becomes a massive success this X'mas.

I'm sure that most of us on a gaming forum would agree and would rather a more traditional controller interface...but lets face it we're the minority and if Halo, Gears or Left 4 Dead weren't good enough to entice you either than there's not much else Microsoft can do to win you over. 

I really don't remember the 'pew, pew, pew' game at the conference - I remember a dancing and boxing game though, I'm sure most would agree would be 'strange' to do whilst weilding a controller. 

Kylie you forgot Echochrome :)

I don't think he would really care. He's just a comedian getting paid to take the piss.

I don't consider letting you take a user picture in a game to be "using" the camera.

It worked for LBP since it let you make stickers for designing levels, but of this list of games, only the following are PSEye required games (used it as a control interface)

Eye of Judgement, Eye Pet, Trials of Topoq, Creature Feature, Tori-Emaki, Mesmerize, Aquatopia.

The last three were screen savers. And yes, I've bought every PSEye game available on PSN.

The SingStar implementation is actually pretty great. Yes, it's just people recording themselves and putting the videos up online, but there is so much entertainment in it! People make some really funny videos. xD

why do you come in here and start to talk about Kevin Butler I think you're in the wrong section of the forums... 

I put a line through the ones that the expanded audience won't give a damn about.  The remaining ones have either already been done on the Wii with a similar controller or have already been on the PS3.  The simple truth is that Move really has absolutely nothing this year that is going to cause a stir. 

The people thinking that Move will have a chance against Kinect this X'mas are just wishful thinking because there's absolutely nothing coming for it that will really get the expanded audience excited in the same way that some Kinect games will. 

Sony needs to come out with something new if they wish to have any real hope of remaining relevant in this console generation and the next.