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Obviously a PSP2 depends heavily on what Sony intends to do in the future

Nintendo apparently tries to battle Sony on their core market right now. Sony's problem is that they still didn't get a grip on Nintendo's expanded market so right now we have two companies, one having conquered a huge market without having to fear defeat in that segment while the other company already had enough problems in their core market because of pircay and generally low software sales.

The coming events heavily depend on how strong Sony's grip on 3rd parties is. Nintendo seems to be in a way better position right now (at least in the handheld market!) but Nintendo absolutely needs that "hardcore" 3rd party support because they can't develop games like Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil internally, for obvious reasons and because this isn't the type of games Nintendo usually develops.

If I was Sony I'd so try to push out a PSP2 as soon as possible to defend my core market. Imagine Sony waiting another year to release a PSP2, letting Nintendo get the 3rd party support that has always been on Sony's platform! Sony's core market would be completely disrupted (literally I mean )

But I'm afraid Sony could try to release a handheld that tries to cater to the "casual" market. Maybe they've been playing a "wait and see" game and will release a PSP2 to battle the 3DS. But trying to get the expanded market without being able to keep their own core market seems like... a bad idea

So in Sony's case I'd put out a PSP2 to defend my core business while thinking about ways to stay in the game. Everything's better than just admitting defeat. Especially because I personally think Nintendo tries to disrupt the Playstation 3's 3D gaming approach with the 3DS (feel free to disagree with me on this one, though )



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aragod said:
ZaP~ said:

I agree with Smashchu2.

Right now 3DS has the 3rd party support and the first party, on the DS-PSP the things was more third party efforts to PSP and Nintendo dominated on DS. As things are right now it's too risk for Sony to develop a PSP2, i mean, what can they do to be different enought and still make developer interested on work on their platform.

Simple answer, unhackable download only device with no piracy. And second analog.

Simple Eh? The only thing they have now that is close to those standards in the PSP Go, and guess what? Most people dont seem to like it too well...



 

 

 

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Thing is, if Nintendo is first out of the gate with the 3DS, which seems entirely likely right now, then surely the multiplats will go there first. Then when Sony's next handheld is released most people will already have the SW so it won't sell very well. Obviously there will be Sony loyalists that will hold out for the PSP2 or whatever it is called SW and people who for whatever reason won't buy a Nintendo console. Just how big this market is though, is probably very much up for debate.



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aragod said:
Smashchu2 said:
aragod said:

Smashchu2 you are even better analyst than Pachter, with your brilliant logical thinking you could make him your bitch at Wedbush. No just kidding, you might bring him a coffe and papers if you work a little harder. Seriously no clue

Then may I ask why my analysis is wrong?

@kowenicki Yes, perhaps that is a possibility.

There are several reasons and I won't go into all of them, but just the first and most basic (broken) will be pointed out.

Nintendo acquiring 3rd party support (which they had this generation all along) doesn't mean that Sony is losing it. It's allways easier making ports or derivative games from home consoles than building from ground up for dual screen 3D device. So unless the PSP2 will copy the 3DS toe to toe, it will have games. And even than, multiplatforms say hello.

It's called 3rd party support for a reason and as long as you can provide some userbase, you won't be left out. So the only exclusives you can count on are Nintendo's and Sony's 1st party studios can fight them just fine.


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aragod said:

son and as long as you can provide some userbase, you won't be left out. So the only exclusives you can count on are Nintendo's and Sony's 1st party studios can fight them just fine.


That is the most bold statement I've seen in this thread. I like it, though.



 

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peachbuggy said:

Thing is, if Nintendo is first out of the gate with the 3DS, which seems entirely likely right now, then surely the multiplats will go there first. Then when Sony's next handheld is released most people will already have the SW so it won't sell very well. Obviously there will be Sony loyalists that will hold out for the PSP2 or whatever it is called SW and people who for whatever reason won't buy a Nintendo console. Just how big this market is though, is probably very much up for debate.

which is why I think sony's going to the Smart phone market with the PSP..

no PSP 2 it would be in my Opinion a waste of Money..the X10 ANDROID OS based phone with Playstation function of remote play already was :

Xperia X10 Quickly Becomes NTT DoCoMo’s Top-Selling Smartphone

sony get's a partnership with Google for Google TV.

PSP/Android phone that has PSN access to gain Sony playstation PSP game's "only on SE android phone's:

a) seperates their smartphone from the rest

b) all existing PSP's are still supported on the PSN for game's

c) no loss leader for PSP's just keep what you already have

d) access to the android market place many indi developer's and some big publisher's are making content for Android phone's



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aragod said:
ZaP~ said:

I agree with Smashchu2.

Right now 3DS has the 3rd party support and the first party, on the DS-PSP the things was more third party efforts to PSP and Nintendo dominated on DS. As things are right now it's too risk for Sony to develop a PSP2, i mean, what can they do to be different enought and still make developer interested on work on their platform.

Simple answer, unhackable download only device with no piracy. And second analog.

Simple Eh? The only thing they have now that is close to those standards in the PSP Go, and guess what? Most people dont seem to like it too well...


Overpriced system, overpriced games...something that can change...



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RolStoppable said:

Lastly, let me say that I would like to see Sony make a PSP2, because it's going to do more harm than good for them.


Hmmm... why do you think so?

Sure Sony is currently being caught between a rock and a hard place but they should at least try to save as much of their core market as possible (we don't know yet how much of Sony's usual support Nintendo "stole" thus far).

Think long-term: if Move happens to fail (and I have to say they've done a way better job than Microsoft at keeping their core audience happy so far... Think of Kevin Butlers speech, hehe ) a small but stable PSP business could prove to be of great value for them. In the end they've got a lot of first party titles for their core gamers so it's not like their consoles would stop selling because of less third part support. (Though if they try to do some sort of "casual gaming" thing with the next PSP your comment would make sense).



Munkeh111 said:


Anyway, of course they will make a PSP2. Yeah, the 3DS has a great line-up, but there are still plenty of people who aren't intrested in those games, they want PlayStation franchises with lovely graphics, and an experience closer to a console {okay, there may not be that many, but there is me!}

You mean franchises like Metal Gear, Resident Evil, and Final Fantasy?

Sony's in a tough spot in the handheld space. Nintendo has roped in Sony's 3rd party support and Apple has completely eclipsed the PSP as a convergence device and in digital distribution. I suspect kowenicki's right and Sony has gone back to the drawing board, because they need to find a third way that can differentiate themselves from these two mobile powerhouses.

It's time for Sony to get a little crazy and some risks. Whatever they come up with will have to be something that nobody is thinking of right now.



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I just think Sony, with the insane truckloads of money they've lost, shouldn't make a PSP2, at least for a while. R&D on the device (and its software) would cost hundreds of millions of dollars, money better spent on PS3 and possibly PS4 R&D, imo. Sure, they might be doing okay, breaking even on PS3 or close to it, but that doesn't magically make up for the *billions* of dollars they've lost these past few years. Just concentrate on the stuff that matters right now, before plunging headfirst into another uphill battle they can never win.



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