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i dont care about 3d gamin...all this mean is games will be even shorter



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good_boy said:


Wrong, he also aimed the 3DS  

joeorc said:
kowenicki said:

some people are really missing what he is saying here....

no:

this was not just aimed at Sony:

"Thompson instead backed the experience of Kinect, the company's hands-free motion-control tech, over the 3D experiences offered by rivals."

he's talking about both Sony and Nintendo..



Those are the author's words, though. Thompson himself was attacking the expense of 3D "in the living room". That's definitely not talking about the 3DS.



good_boy said:


Wrong, he also aimed the 3DS  

joeorc said:
kowenicki said:

some people are really missing what he is saying here....

no:

this was not just aimed at Sony:

"Thompson instead backed the experience of Kinect, the company's hands-free motion-control tech, over the 3D experiences offered by rivals."

he's talking about both Sony and Nintendo..




See, but those AREN'T his words.  Those are the reporters' words.  HIS words expressly talk about the living room.  Not handhelds.  

It's a clumsily written piece.  Look at the quote and show me anything that says anything or implies anything about handhelds.  He's talking about the mass-market threshold of TV's.  



Can't we all just get along and play our games in peace?

selnor said:


I can see past the hardcore only image people on the net rate these conferences by. M$ achieved exactly what they aimed for . Promoting casual play.

Level with me Selnor:

If I was to review your past opinions on Nintendo's past three E3 conferences, what would you be saying?  Keep in mind that they're archived...



Yeah he's right 3D isn't going to take off this gen, it might take another gen or 2 until people have 3DTV's.

Lol Kinect is gonna fail too though. Its way too expensive and it looks pretty stupid to me. I don't think you can make a really fun game with just motion and no buttons or anything. It might be fun for lame party games but you're not gonna have a game like Halo run 100% on Kinect.



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noname2200 said:
selnor said:


I can see past the hardcore only image people on the net rate these conferences by. M$ achieved exactly what they aimed for . Promoting casual play.

Level with me Selnor:

If I was to review your past opinions on Nintendo's past three E3 conferences, what would you be saying?  Keep in mind that they're archived...

Keep in mind the search function is broken!

Edit: Also you have to give people room for growth/changing opinions. If he criticised Nintendo in the past it doesn't mean he couldn't have learnt from that and you ought to give him the benefit of the doubt.



Tease.

S.T.A.G.E. said:
irstupid said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Nintendo gave us a more concrete 3D product with the 3DS. Sony's can be enjoyed whether in 3D or not. Microsoft doesn't create technology to be revered in gaming, so really their opinion means nothing in the matter. When they start making technology then I might be able to take them seriously. Microsoft is a software company. They need to focus on acquiring top notch developers before their investors pull out like they are planning on doing already.


the thing is I take Microsot more serious than Sony regarding 3D, due to microsoft not having a product for 3D.

Sony is using its fanboys to try and push 3D on all of us, just like they did with blu ray.  I hate being used by a company.  They are pushing these 3D games becuase they want us to buy their 3D tvs, and then their 3D blu ray movies and so on.  And that list there is one thing that is common, involves buying and buying new stuff. 


You have a point and Sony did use the gamers to save their format, but 3D is inevitable and Nintendo showed us with their handheld that it can be taken seriously.


yes it is inevitable, but just like microsoft said sometime later that they will consider 3D for home consoles once 30% of the people have 3D tv's.  To me this is a smart business move.  They wait till it is widely adapted, and not be like Sony who is trying to force the adaption to happen sooner.



irstupid said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
irstupid said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Nintendo gave us a more concrete 3D product with the 3DS. Sony's can be enjoyed whether in 3D or not. Microsoft doesn't create technology to be revered in gaming, so really their opinion means nothing in the matter. When they start making technology then I might be able to take them seriously. Microsoft is a software company. They need to focus on acquiring top notch developers before their investors pull out like they are planning on doing already.


the thing is I take Microsot more serious than Sony regarding 3D, due to microsoft not having a product for 3D.

Sony is using its fanboys to try and push 3D on all of us, just like they did with blu ray.  I hate being used by a company.  They are pushing these 3D games becuase they want us to buy their 3D tvs, and then their 3D blu ray movies and so on.  And that list there is one thing that is common, involves buying and buying new stuff. 


You have a point and Sony did use the gamers to save their format, but 3D is inevitable and Nintendo showed us with their handheld that it can be taken seriously.


yes it is inevitable, but just like microsoft said sometime later that they will consider 3D for home consoles once 30% of the people have 3D tv's.  To me this is a smart business move.  They wait till it is widely adapted, and not be like Sony who is trying to force the adaption to happen sooner.


You realize the difference in the companies requires this?  Sony (and Samsung, etc) need to push the hardware, that's what they do.

If they weren't there wouldn't ever be any adoption for Nintendo/MS to then take afvantage of.

Sony and the other electronic providers (which obviously excludes MS and Nintendo as they are niche providers vs the general consumer electronics firms) will always be pushing the new tech because they have to.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

S.T.A.G.E. said:
joeorc said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
irstupid said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Nintendo gave us a more concrete 3D product with the 3DS. Sony's can be enjoyed whether in 3D or not. Microsoft doesn't create technology to be revered in gaming, so really their opinion means nothing in the matter. When they start making technology then I might be able to take them seriously. Microsoft is a software company. They need to focus on acquiring top notch developers before their investors pull out like they are planning on doing already.


the thing is I take Microsot more serious than Sony regarding 3D, due to microsoft not having a product for 3D.

Sony is using its fanboys to try and push 3D on all of us, just like they did with blu ray.  I hate being used by a company.  They are pushing these 3D games becuase they want us to buy their 3D tvs, and then their 3D blu ray movies and so on.  And that list there is one thing that is common, involves buying and buying new stuff. 


You have a point and Sony did use the gamers to save their format, but 3D is inevitable and Nintendo showed us with their handheld that it can be taken seriously.


That is a Myth because even before HD DVD was released The Blu-Ray technology was already in consumer's hands 3 year's that's three year's prior to even the first HD DVD box hitting the consumer market. when all but One Consumer Electronic manuf. companies from the get go supported Blu-Ray over HD DVD's 2..that was Toshiba and Microsoft..it was not going to loose.

it would have been drawn out yes but there was no way HD DVD was going to win..as for the rumor that Warner BROS was paid off that also is just a myth because the WB was on the board of director's of Blu-Ray since the Blu-Ray founder's was started.

The Blu-ray Disc Founders (BDF) group was a collection of technology firms working together to develop and support the The Blu-ray Disc Founders was launched on May 20, 2002. As Blu-ray support grew progressively; announcements in 2004 added HP and dell which declared backing for the standard on January 12, 2004, and TDK on March 19, 2004. It announced that Blu-ray Disc Founders will shift to (BDA) in October on May 18, 2004. It shifted to Blu-ray Disc Association on October 4, 2004.

Sony was just one company in the lot of many that support Blu-Ray because the technology was already been on the consumer market since 2003.

that's the real reason why the technology already worked is one of the reason's Sony used it.

Blu-Ray was not just a sony format

Dude....Blu Ray had lower sales than HDDVD. It was after the PS3 launched and Sony made the rental exclusivity deal with Blockuster for Blu Ray as an alt HD format that BD made HDDVD a non-factor. It was never any other way until those things happened. Whether u like it or not the people were used. Sony knows their loyal market well.

no..no..no.do not buy into that Trite:

the truth of the matter

look the problem is you an many other's are looking at it from just the P3 FORWARD..The Blu-Ray format was on the Market before the PS3 was even made!

hell it was even a recordable burning format right off the bat in 2003! that's 3 year's before Sony even released the PS3

22 of the largest Electronic's firm's including every one of the movie studio's from 2002 to 2004 all supported Blu-Ray before HD DVD was even ready!

Blu-Ray already had a CE electronic product in japan in early 2003, and SONY was not even the only one.. and Pansonic soon followed with Blu-Ray devices of their own in 2004.

HD DVD was only there to put FUD in the eye's of the consumer..Blu-Ray would have made it with or without the PS3

the reason why is simple:

only Toshiba made HD DVD optical drives!

the rest produced Blu-Ray optical drives.

from 2001 on Blu-ray founder's was already setting up the licences 2 year's before HDDVD WAS EVEN READY.

Yes the PS3 helped but the real problem for HD DVD was it was just too late..without microsoft Toshiba may not have even tried to move even forward with HD DVD Toshiba being the only one to produce HD DVD was pretty much all she wrote.

the PS3 just help speed it along. but we were far from being used. the format worked, it was on the market 3 year's for consumer purchase before HD DVD was even released. without Microsoft I doubt very much Toshiba would have even gone forward.

As for CHDVD like Blu-Ray both was submitted to the CHINA'S govt. and both were excepted.

HD DVD was just that a format to split the market because Microsoft had to try..!



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

being there first doesn't change the fact that blu ray was starting to loose when HD-DVD came around.

If not for the PS3 jump starting it, all signs were pointing to HD-DVD winning.

Who was there first again doesn't mean shit