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BoneArk on 16 June 2010

Yeah they did.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

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Masakari on 16 June 2010
joeorc said:
Masakari said:

Dunno, it's a complex question.

Move is literally a Wii HD. Will probably captivate existing users more than Kinect, but for me Kinect has much more potential. Will the market respond to something so different?

I did see a trend, Sony clearly paid off EA and Valve for stuff like the total 180 switch Valve has done Steam on PS3 PS3 exclusive stuff like Medal of Honor HD and Dead Space Extraction HD. So maybe Sony is now gonna return to their PS1 and early PS2 days of moneyhatting like MS has done this gen.

just like call of duty exclusive DLC on the xbox360..lol

As for money hatting

do not be so sure of that:

"Today during Sony’s press conference EA revealed that a Move enhanced port of Dead Space Extraction will come pack inside Dead Space 2’s Limited Edition. Previously exclusive to the Wii, Dead Space Extraction was a brilliant on-rails shooter which ultimately garnered more attention for it’s shockingly low sales than anything else. No word yet on whether Dead Space Extraction will be available independent of the Limited Edition but I suspect this announcement also means that we can expect the former Wii exclusive to also appear on the PSN in the near future."

does that looked like it was money hatted to you?

the game was already released on the Wii, Sony is getting a motion controlled port and you think that's being money hatted?

 

 

Yes, simply because they also said Move wasn't required, you can play it with a normal controller. That makes it zero reason to be PS3 exclusive unless they got paid, specially when you factor in that they announced it with the LE, not PSN (for now), which is a message saying "buy DS2 on PS3 not 360 because we offer a whole extra game" - if that's not platform promoting, I don't know what is. Same with MoH HD. And obviously same with the CoD DLC on Xbox. And the Valve thing, like I said, zero chance that happened without a payout.

I'm not criticizing Sony, for me the "timed exclusives" and "moneyhats" are just business, gaming isn't a charity industry. I was just pointing out that Sony fans usually get on the MS-moneyhatting-hate, but Sony does the same, they just hide it better.



joeorc on 16 June 2010
Masakari said:
joeorc said:
Masakari said:

Dunno, it's a complex question.

Move is literally a Wii HD. Will probably captivate existing users more than Kinect, but for me Kinect has much more potential. Will the market respond to something so different?

I did see a trend, Sony clearly paid off EA and Valve for stuff like the total 180 switch Valve has done Steam on PS3 PS3 exclusive stuff like Medal of Honor HD and Dead Space Extraction HD. So maybe Sony is now gonna return to their PS1 and early PS2 days of moneyhatting like MS has done this gen.

just like call of duty exclusive DLC on the xbox360..lol

As for money hatting

do not be so sure of that:

"Today during Sony’s press conference EA revealed that a Move enhanced port of Dead Space Extraction will come pack inside Dead Space 2’s Limited Edition. Previously exclusive to the Wii, Dead Space Extraction was a brilliant on-rails shooter which ultimately garnered more attention for it’s shockingly low sales than anything else. No word yet on whether Dead Space Extraction will be available independent of the Limited Edition but I suspect this announcement also means that we can expect the former Wii exclusive to also appear on the PSN in the near future."

does that looked like it was money hatted to you?

the game was already released on the Wii, Sony is getting a motion controlled port and you think that's being money hatted?

 

 

Yes, simply because they also said Move wasn't required, you can play it with a normal controller. That makes it zero reason to be PS3 exclusive unless they got paid, specially when you factor in that they announced it with the LE, not PSN (for now), which is a message saying "buy DS2 on PS3 not 360 because we offer a whole extra game" - if that's not platform promoting, I don't know what is. Same with MoH HD. And obviously same with the CoD DLC on Xbox. And the Valve thing, like I said, zero chance that happened without a payout.

I'm not criticizing Sony, for me the "timed exclusives" and "moneyhats" are just business, gaming isn't a charity industry. I was just pointing out that Sony fans usually get on the MS-moneyhatting-hate, but Sony does the same, they just hide it better.

if that was the case

it gave it zero reason to be on the Wii exclusive also:

3rd party's make deal's all the time, some is so they can get more sales, other's to gain suome incentive it does not matter..what goe's on it's still allow's more people to play the game anyway.

the only way you can count on something being exclusive is if it's 1st party or 2nd party the rest is up for grab's. just because your system is in the lead does not make it the only choice to put your software on that system only. thus all 3rd parties have their hand out for somthing.

all companies do it so that is not anything shocking. but to say that it was money hatted when they could have just offered support to EA so they can sell more of Dead space 2 extraction. by TV ads, or help with development cost's of the port.

and to make it only Move only would not be smart. no PS3 come's with Move included yet.

and it's included so you can play without move incase you do not have the move controller.

by offering the motion port it gives the user the ability to try it out with Move.

and ad's yet one more game to the game's you can choose from to play on the system.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Masakari on 16 June 2010

You do realize that "offered support to EA so they can sell more of Dead space 2 extraction. by TV ads, or help with development cost's of the port." is exactly the same behaviour that fans accuse MS of having on stuff like the GTA4 DLC episodes or the CoD map packs? In the end, 50 million or 5 dollars, what they are doing is offering support, free publicity, and covering development costs.

Don't be in denial, it's exactly the same thing, there's no difference whatsoever.



Solid_Snake4RD on 16 June 2010
Lord Flashheart said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
joeorc said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
 

also because ACTIVISION chose MS,EA had to go for SOYN as ACTIVISION AND EA are too big rivals and EA want partner to chowcase their product and differentiate

 

so EA was also in need

also I can see more Wii motion Port's coming Sony's way, and Why not the Game's are already done adding something to the game an making maybe some enhancement's to the visuals would be cheaper than making a brand new game for some 3rd party publisher's and developer's.

Get some of those exclusive 3rd party Wii motion controlled game's for the PS3 is in my opinion pretty good because that make's getting the 3rd party developer's another chance to sell more of their game's which give's them more of a chance to make more game's.

yes many of them will now come for both

 

i think the MS CONFERENCE killed the PROJECT NATAL hype

Haha.

Why am I not surprised whereas i bet the Sony conference increased the hype 1000fold.

So transparent.
Anyway i think we've done enough with this now. There's only so much you can troll in a troll thread and maybe we should let it die. you've failed at what you tried to achieve.

 

Oh and you can use the mario kart wheel if you like in forza, or a plate or anything round in you really need to hold something.

sony didn't increased the hype but there was not so much about the MOVe as they already showed it at GDC

PROJECT NATAL had a lot of hype especially from casuals as they just looked at the video and thought it was possible without looking at the technical details

and the media hype it to alot but after the MS conference the whole media was bashing it