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Spedfrom said:

Just because you hate her and would like to see her disappear, doesn't mean what you wrote is true. Not even remotely.

Just because you perceive an objective, speculative piece as being evidence of me "hating her and wanting to see her disappear" doesn't make it true. Not even remotely. 



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
Seece said:

I think it's unfair to call her a one trick pony, since The Fame she has only recorded a few new songs, one of which has been her biggest.

I'm sure her new album will be a reinvention not just in terms of image but music too.

I don't get why people that obviously love more savoury music (beatles, radiohead ect) have to lash out so hard at people like Lady gaga. Why? cos it's pop it's talentless and meaningless?

It's a snobby arrogant view.

It's because when Lady Gaga "reinvents her sound" it's just her firing her last 5 producers and hiring 5 more producers, and telling them to come up with something fresh.  Her last producer is even suing her for millions of dollars for stealing his sound.  And I don't know about the rest of the haters here, but it's usually just leo-j making me crazy, saying stuff like "this is Lady Gaga growing as an artist."

When David Bowie changed up his style and his sound every single album for many decades, it was actually him changing his styles.  He wrote all his own glam, pop, drum and bass, soul, disco, ambient, proto-metal, you name it.  Same with the Beatles, Serge Gainsbourg, Beck, and Radiohead changing a lot, but they didn't do it as much as Bowie.

You're a Brian Eno fan, right? To think that Leo-J probably doesn't even know who he is...



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blaydcor said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Seece said:

I think it's unfair to call her a one trick pony, since The Fame she has only recorded a few new songs, one of which has been her biggest.

I'm sure her new album will be a reinvention not just in terms of image but music too.

I don't get why people that obviously love more savoury music (beatles, radiohead ect) have to lash out so hard at people like Lady gaga. Why? cos it's pop it's talentless and meaningless?

It's a snobby arrogant view.

It's because when Lady Gaga "reinvents her sound" it's just her firing her last 5 producers and hiring 5 more producers, and telling them to come up with something fresh.  Her last producer is even suing her for millions of dollars for stealing his sound.  And I don't know about the rest of the haters here, but it's usually just leo-j making me crazy, saying stuff like "this is Lady Gaga growing as an artist."

When David Bowie changed up his style and his sound every single album for many decades, it was actually him changing his styles.  He wrote all his own glam, pop, drum and bass, soul, disco, ambient, proto-metal, you name it.  Same with the Beatles, Serge Gainsbourg, Beck, and Radiohead changing a lot, but they didn't do it as much as Bowie.

You're a Brian Eno fan, right? To think that Leo-J probably doesn't even know who he is...

I think Brian Eno is probably one of the 10 most important sound artists of the 20th century and I'm madly in love with his work!  Woohoo!

::high five::

and

::le sigh...::

Have you read Eno's "The Studio as a Compositional Tool?"

Oooh ooh, that reminds me, did you see David Byrne's TED talk?  It's from February, but the TED folks just put it online a few days ago.  How Architecture Helped Music Evolve.

Let's hijack all these Lady Gaga threads and discuss some real music-art-history-philosophy.



axumblade said:

Anyone else having an issue with this thread staying lit up like someone is responding in it and then there are no new responses?


I'm having the same issue.



Hmm...interesting. Seeing her before she was "famous as GaGa"...she seems to have lost some weight, or at least stopped tanning. It was weird, in that restaurant I looked at her plate first of all to see if she was a real vegetarian lol

Going from Stefania to Gaga, it's like she fell off a balcony as a secretary and turned into Catwoman once she touched earth.

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Fab_GS said:
axumblade said:

Anyone else having an issue with this thread staying lit up like someone is responding in it and then there are no new responses?


I'm having the same issue.


me too



blaydcor said:
Seece said:

I think it's unfair to call her a one trick pony, since The Fame she has only recorded a few new songs, one of which has been her biggest.

I'm sure her new album will be a reinvention not just in terms of image but music too.

I don't get why people that obviously love more savoury music (beatles, radiohead ect) have to lash out so hard at people like Lady gaga. Why? cos it's pop it's talentless and meaningless?

It's a snobby arrogant view.


Uh, but I really enjoy Lady Gaga and have her album and EP. If anything I tend to view all music from an objective, broader perspective, and in the grand scheme of the music world just don't see her having much lasting impact. Way to assume I'm a music snob. Now who's being arrogant?

That wasn't even in reply to your OP?? So no I'm not being arrogant.



 

Lady Gaga irrelevant? Have you checked the view count on the Alejandro video? O_o

LMAO at Ke$ha being bigger than her. Has Ke$ha even sold 2 million albums yet?



Seece said:
blaydcor said:
Seece said:

I think it's unfair to call her a one trick pony, since The Fame she has only recorded a few new songs, one of which has been her biggest.

I'm sure her new album will be a reinvention not just in terms of image but music too.

I don't get why people that obviously love more savoury music (beatles, radiohead ect) have to lash out so hard at people like Lady gaga. Why? cos it's pop it's talentless and meaningless?

It's a snobby arrogant view.


Uh, but I really enjoy Lady Gaga and have her album and EP. If anything I tend to view all music from an objective, broader perspective, and in the grand scheme of the music world just don't see her having much lasting impact. Way to assume I'm a music snob. Now who's being arrogant?

That wasn't even in reply to your OP?? So no I'm not being arrogant.

But I called her "a one trick pony" and you start off your post with "it's unfair to call her a one trick pony"...seems like you're replying to my post to me....but I can see how you weren't. My bad. 



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
Seece said:

I think it's unfair to call her a one trick pony, since The Fame she has only recorded a few new songs, one of which has been her biggest.

I'm sure her new album will be a reinvention not just in terms of image but music too.

I don't get why people that obviously love more savoury music (beatles, radiohead ect) have to lash out so hard at people like Lady gaga. Why? cos it's pop it's talentless and meaningless?

It's a snobby arrogant view.

It's because when Lady Gaga "reinvents her sound" it's just her firing her last 5 producers and hiring 5 more producers, and telling them to come up with something fresh.  Her last producer is even suing her for millions of dollars for stealing his sound.  And I don't know about the rest of the haters here, but it's usually just leo-j making me crazy, saying stuff like "this is Lady Gaga growing as an artist."

When David Bowie changed up his style and his sound every single album for many decades, it was actually him changing his styles.  He wrote all his own glam, pop, drum and bass, soul, disco, ambient, proto-metal, you name it.  Same with the Beatles, Serge Gainsbourg, Beck, and Radiohead changing a lot, but they didn't do it as much as Bowie.

Good post Rubang.  David Bowie's music has been around for over fourty years and is an an artist that will still be talked about for fourty more.  This is the definition of what relevancy is.    Ten years from now , no one will be talking about Lady Gaga except her current fans.  She is dwarfed by someone like Madonna if pop music is your thing.    



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