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Solid_Snake4RD said:

but just think with the moment SONY was coming into this gen and brand being the biggest of biggest,at a low price of $299 it would have just overshadowed the Wii

Can you explain this video to me, then?

There's no price on either console in E3 (actually, the lines themselves can be considered one), so the lack of interest in the PS3 here cannot be excused by its $599 tag. The console people are more interested in will get more attention.

Below, people at E3 rush out for a chance to play the Wii

It should be obvious from these vids that the excitement the Wii generated has absolutely nothing to do with the PS3.

(damn VGC 3.0. will get this embed up...)



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Sony is positioning themselves to fall flat on their faces in ore tthan one way, particularly if they're trying to anticipate a Wii HD. They're going to be feeling mighty silly at their conference if this is true.

I'll keep my hopes about third party supportfor the 3DS reined in for now.



@Solid_Snake4RD

do you honestly think that the Wii was only successful because of its pricepoint? no, the wii was successful because of its new ideas (motion controls), great games, and nintendo targeting the HUGE casual audience. which it did successfully. price had very little to do with it. they arent the massive deciding factor you seem to think they are.



                                                                                                  
TX109 said:

@Solid_Snake4RD

do you honestly think that the Wii was only successful because of its pricepoint? no, the wii was successful because of its new ideas (motion controls), great games, and nintendo targeting the HUGE casual audience. which it did successfully. price had very little to do with it. they arent the massive deciding factor you seem to think they are.


No i don't think Wii was only succesful because of its price point

you aren't understanding what i am trying to say here

 

for example Dreamcast and Gamecube were also very good consoles but they just got overshadowed by the mighty Playstation 2 which has a lot of momentum from PS1 and the $299 price point.

the Wii was succesful cause it got on with the casual who don't follow gaming but most that is popular,so if PAS3 was to be $299 it would have gotten big sales at the start like PS2 and Wii would never have been popular as casuals wouldn't have come to know about it



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Solid_Snake4RD said:
TX109 said:

@Solid_Snake4RD

do you honestly think that the Wii was only successful because of its pricepoint? no, the wii was successful because of its new ideas (motion controls), great games, and nintendo targeting the HUGE casual audience. which it did successfully. price had very little to do with it. they arent the massive deciding factor you seem to think they are.


No i don't think Wii was only succesful because of its price point

you aren't understanding what i am trying to say here

 

for example Dreamcast and Gamecube were also very good consoles but they just got overshadowed by the mighty Playstation 2 which has a lot of momentum from PS1 and the $299 price point.

the Wii was succesful cause it got on with the casual who don't follow gaming but most that is popular,so if PAS3 was to be $299 it would have gotten big sales at the start like PS2 and Wii would never have been popular as casuals wouldn't have come to know about it


why do you think that "casuals" only follow what is popular?

the wii targeted the casual audience to great affect with fun pick-up-and-play games (much like the PS2) and interesting new tech. im sure if the PS3 had been $300 at launch it would have done WAY better than it is now, but it still wouldnt be as big as the wii. the wii won "casuals", which is a massive ausience, with strait-up fun and easy games and a new way to play them. that is something Sony didnt do.



                                                                                                  
TX109 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
TX109 said:

@Solid_Snake4RD

do you honestly think that the Wii was only successful because of its pricepoint? no, the wii was successful because of its new ideas (motion controls), great games, and nintendo targeting the HUGE casual audience. which it did successfully. price had very little to do with it. they arent the massive deciding factor you seem to think they are.


No i don't think Wii was only succesful because of its price point

you aren't understanding what i am trying to say here

 

for example Dreamcast and Gamecube were also very good consoles but they just got overshadowed by the mighty Playstation 2 which has a lot of momentum from PS1 and the $299 price point.

the Wii was succesful cause it got on with the casual who don't follow gaming but most that is popular,so if PAS3 was to be $299 it would have gotten big sales at the start like PS2 and Wii would never have been popular as casuals wouldn't have come to know about it


why do you think that "casuals" only follow what is popular?

the wii targeted the casual audience to great affect with fun pick-up-and-play games (much like the PS2) and interesting new tech. im sure if the PS3 had been $300 at launch it would have done WAY better than it is now, but it still wouldnt be as big as the wii. the wii won "casuals", which is a massive ausience, with strait-up fun and easy games and a new way to play them. that is something Sony didnt do.

PS2 didn't become popular because it was fun to play

 

but because when it luanched,it from the start with all the hardcore gamers had big sales so it was popular

if PS3 had started at $299,it would have been in first place because from start everybody would have upgraded

people wouldn't have moved onto the 360 and wii

 

u think with Nintendo name being equal to shit in console space when Wii launched and Playstation brand being the biggest thing.Wii would still have sold well................lmao



Solid_Snake4RD said:
TX109 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
TX109 said:

@Solid_Snake4RD

do you honestly think that the Wii was only successful because of its pricepoint? no, the wii was successful because of its new ideas (motion controls), great games, and nintendo targeting the HUGE casual audience. which it did successfully. price had very little to do with it. they arent the massive deciding factor you seem to think they are.


No i don't think Wii was only succesful because of its price point

you aren't understanding what i am trying to say here

 

for example Dreamcast and Gamecube were also very good consoles but they just got overshadowed by the mighty Playstation 2 which has a lot of momentum from PS1 and the $299 price point.

the Wii was succesful cause it got on with the casual who don't follow gaming but most that is popular,so if PAS3 was to be $299 it would have gotten big sales at the start like PS2 and Wii would never have been popular as casuals wouldn't have come to know about it


why do you think that "casuals" only follow what is popular?

the wii targeted the casual audience to great affect with fun pick-up-and-play games (much like the PS2) and interesting new tech. im sure if the PS3 had been $300 at launch it would have done WAY better than it is now, but it still wouldnt be as big as the wii. the wii won "casuals", which is a massive ausience, with strait-up fun and easy games and a new way to play them. that is something Sony didnt do.

PS2 didn't become popular because it was fun to play

 

but because when it luanched,it from the start with all the hardcore gamers had big sales so it was popular

if PS3 had started at $299,it would have been in first place because from start everybody would have upgraded

people wouldn't have moved onto the 360 and wii

 

u think with Nintendo name being equal to shit in console space when Wii launched and Playstation brand being the biggest thing.Wii would still have sold well................lmao



so your saying the PS2 was popular because it wasnt fun to play and it survived and thrived only on the hardcore who only bought it because it was sony?...wha?

the wii is popular not because nintendo made the system, but because it succesfully targeted an audience far bigger than "the hardcore" audience, the "casuals". you know, those who didnt play video games or even those who didnt want a super hardcore system. and hey, some may have got it because it was cheaper, but the low price did not dictate the wii's succes alone as you seem to think. most bought the Wii mainly because it was a fun and easy system with alot of fun and easy games and an interesting new way to play. whereas Sony only targeted the hardcore which was a mistake. nintendo saw the potential in this audience, took a risk, and succeeded.

you think that brand name and price point=100% of all sales......................lmao



                                                                                                  

interesting arguments in this thread. Cant we all just be excitted for everything. Nintendo has cool games like zela. SOny has cool games like Gran turismo and killzone (the list goes on and on). And microsoft has cool games like halo reach.



TX109 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
TX109 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
TX109 said:

@Solid_Snake4RD

do you honestly think that the Wii was only successful because of its pricepoint? no, the wii was successful because of its new ideas (motion controls), great games, and nintendo targeting the HUGE casual audience. which it did successfully. price had very little to do with it. they arent the massive deciding factor you seem to think they are.


No i don't think Wii was only succesful because of its price point

you aren't understanding what i am trying to say here

 

for example Dreamcast and Gamecube were also very good consoles but they just got overshadowed by the mighty Playstation 2 which has a lot of momentum from PS1 and the $299 price point.

the Wii was succesful cause it got on with the casual who don't follow gaming but most that is popular,so if PAS3 was to be $299 it would have gotten big sales at the start like PS2 and Wii would never have been popular as casuals wouldn't have come to know about it


why do you think that "casuals" only follow what is popular?

the wii targeted the casual audience to great affect with fun pick-up-and-play games (much like the PS2) and interesting new tech. im sure if the PS3 had been $300 at launch it would have done WAY better than it is now, but it still wouldnt be as big as the wii. the wii won "casuals", which is a massive ausience, with strait-up fun and easy games and a new way to play them. that is something Sony didnt do.

PS2 didn't become popular because it was fun to play

 

but because when it luanched,it from the start with all the hardcore gamers had big sales so it was popular

if PS3 had started at $299,it would have been in first place because from start everybody would have upgraded

people wouldn't have moved onto the 360 and wii

 

u think with Nintendo name being equal to shit in console space when Wii launched and Playstation brand being the biggest thing.Wii would still have sold well................lmao



so your saying the PS2 was popular because it wasnt fun to play and it survived and thrived only on the hardcore who only bought it because it was sony?...wha?

the wii is popular not because nintendo made the system, but because it succesfully targeted an audience far bigger than "the hardcore" audience, the "casuals". you know, those who didnt play video games or even those who didnt want a super hardcore system. and hey, some may have got it because it was cheaper, but the low price did not dictate the wii's succes alone as you seem to think. most bought the Wii mainly because it was a fun and easy system with alot of fun and easy games and an interesting new way to play. whereas Sony only targeted the hardcore which was a mistake. nintendo saw the potential in this audience, took a risk, and succeeded.

you think that brand name and price point=100% of all sales......................lmao

Dude I wouldn't bother if I were you. He'll just ignore most of your argument, look at the last line of your post and make a completely convoluted and irrelevant rebuke and declare that you're immature.