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Lord Flashheart said:
Kasz216 said:
KylieDog said:

For one thing the US is going to have trouble adopting a sport whos name they stole.

 

 

I think football is too fast paced for americans also, its 90 minutes of play interupted by only one break where as in handegg they are constantly stopping and starting, google says americans are fat so they are never going to play a game that doesn't give them breaks every other minute.

 

Really though look at a number of sports that are popular, Handegg, Ice Hockey, Wrestling.  Americans seem to like fake violence mixed with drama.  I mean you look at wrestling with its fake violence and drama trashtalking and you look at the others and its the same.  There is a reason padding is worn on these other sports and its be be violent with 'hard' tackles or fights breaking out but at the same time false, just like wrestling.  Fun fact:  If a wrestler were to ever use a handegg star gimmick the world would probably implode.


Thats an EXTREMELY ingorant statement.   Football...  (American) is part of the Football family of games, which includes Rugby and Assosiation Football.

Assosiation Football is the actual TRUE name of Soccer.  Hence why the Knickname Soccer was created for the game, by the English.

However, it didn't stick with most of the world... but did with the US.    Calling Soccer Football is like calling a Panda Bear just a Bear.   There are plenty of Bears.  In reality, the US is using the only term that makes actual sense.  Though just calling American Football, Football is the same mistake.


Furthermore... Football and Hockey are actually a lot more dangerous then Rugby regardless of the pads due to the number of times hit and the WAY hits are made. 

If that's the rue name of Football, not soccer but football, then shouldn't the Yanks use the true name for Grid Iron?

A fact most Yanks overlook in that stupid statement.

Uh... Did you just stop reading as you saw that?  Look 6 sentences down... here I'll bold it for you.

Though Gridiron is a terrible name.   I'd use Goaline Football myself.



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Lord Flashheart said:
Kasz216 said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Kasz216 said:

Eh, They miss the beiggest reason if you ask me.

Football IS the biggest sport in America.   Just a different version of it.

American Football, which derived from Rugby which was part of the Football family  is what Americans love.   Most people went from American Football, To Assosiation Football.

Americal went from Football, to Rugby Football  to American Football.


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Your fix makes no sense at all though.  Assosiation football wasn't derived from American football in the least. 

Nvermind. I thought you was talking about Yanks goinf from Grid Iron to Football recentlyas you was talking about America.

As you weren't what was your point. People went from football to... football? Being pedantic is one thing but you and everyone else knows football and association football is still football.

Except it isn't.   Before the rules of Football were codified, Rugby and Assosiation Football were considered the same game.

Like say Basektball where the 3-point line is in different places.

Rugby Football was also just football until the rules were codified for it.



To be honest if the world cup isn't enough hype for them then Yanks wont ever take to it.

And they shouldn't if they don't want to but if they are going to mock it then at least get the sports name correct.

And not this Association nonsence but Football.

It does look that Football is growing in America just slowly but with more immigrants and the worldwide exposure of tournaments like this it seems innevitable.



Kasz216 said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Kasz216 said:


Thats an EXTREMELY ingorant statement.   Football...  (American) is part of the Football family of games, which includes Rugby and Assosiation Football.

Assosiation Football is the actual TRUE name of Soccer.  Hence why the Knickname Soccer was created for the game, by the English.

However, it didn't stick with most of the world... but did with the US.    Calling Soccer Football is like calling a Panda Bear just a Bear.   There are plenty of Bears.  In reality, the US is using the only term that makes actual sense.  Though just calling American Football, Football is the same mistake.


Furthermore... Football and Hockey are actually a lot more dangerous then Rugby regardless of the pads due to the number of times hit and the WAY hits are made. 

If that's the rue name of Football, not soccer but football, then shouldn't the Yanks use the true name for Grid Iron?

A fact most Yanks overlook in that stupid statement.

Uh... Did you just stop reading as you saw that?  Look 6 sentences down... here I'll bold it for you.

Though Gridiron is a terrible name.   I'd use Goaline Football myself.

Uh..Yes I did. To be honest I had more to say on the use of the word Association but deleted it to keep things friendly. The point I left in was the "soccer" part  8 words in for you.



Pharaoh said:
Trying to get into the world cup by watching the south africa vs. mexico and now the france match but watching just strengthens why americans hate this "sport".

1) The stupid horns. I have to watch with the mute button on or else my head will explode. They don't even blow them for any reason, i.e. when their team is on defense.
2) THE HORNS. Its like hearing a baby slowly skinned alive.
3) Both games are scoreless the whole first half!! What a waste of time.

4) The game ends in a tie! Its not a competitive sport if no one wins. Its basically wasting 2 hours of your life.

5) If the u.s. didn't have football, basketball, baseball, and our athletes grew up playing soccer, this wouldn't even be a contest.  Our athletes are just that much physically better.


its actually the same when you watch 2 mediocre teams play in NFL

 

watch the EPL,UCL and games of the european countries,they are far better



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Kasz216 said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Kasz216 said:


Your fix makes no sense at all though.  Assosiation football wasn't derived from American football in the least. 

Nvermind. I thought you was talking about Yanks goinf from Grid Iron to Football recentlyas you was talking about America.

As you weren't what was your point. People went from football to... football? Being pedantic is one thing but you and everyone else knows football and association football is still football.

Except it isn't.   Before the rules of Football were codified, Rugby and Assosiation Football were considered the same game.

Like say Basektball where the 3-point line is in different places.

Rugby Football was also just football until the rules were codified for it.

Football was still called football long before the rules were formalised. True that Rugby and Football used the name but then rugby changed it and later football adjusted its to include association to avoid confusion. Doesn't change the fact it was called football from the start (or near abouts) and isn't called association football unless on a legal document or if you are a Yank being difficult. Also doesn't change the fact that the name Soccer came after association.



Pharaoh said:
Trying to get into the world cup by watching the south africa vs. mexico and now the france match but watching just strengthens why americans hate this "sport".

1) The stupid horns. I have to watch with the mute button on or else my head will explode. They don't even blow them for any reason, i.e. when their team is on defense.
2) THE HORNS. Its like hearing a baby slowly skinned alive.
3) Both games are scoreless the whole first half!! What a waste of time.

4) The game ends in a tie! Its not a competitive sport if no one wins. Its basically wasting 2 hours of your life.

5) If the u.s. didn't have football, basketball, baseball, and our athletes grew up playing soccer, this wouldn't even be a contest.  Our athletes are just that much physically better.


Bolded: That doesn't even make sense when you're talking about "Soccer". 

Underlined: What a stupid thing to say. Typical arrogant American. The best Footballers in the world are typically short, quick and agile. Not physical. Not that Americans are more physical anyway...

Edit: And touch is way more important than athleticism.



Solid_Snake4RD said:
Pharaoh said:
Trying to get into the world cup by watching the south africa vs. mexico and now the france match but watching just strengthens why americans hate this "sport".

1) The stupid horns. I have to watch with the mute button on or else my head will explode. They don't even blow them for any reason, i.e. when their team is on defense.
2) THE HORNS. Its like hearing a baby slowly skinned alive.
3) Both games are scoreless the whole first half!! What a waste of time.

4) The game ends in a tie! Its not a competitive sport if no one wins. Its basically wasting 2 hours of your life.

5) If the u.s. didn't have football, basketball, baseball, and our athletes grew up playing soccer, this wouldn't even be a contest.  Our athletes are just that much physically better.


its actually the same when you watch 2 mediocre teams play in NFL

 

watch the EPL,UCL and games of the european countries,they are far better

Except in the NFL they have explosive players who actually score.  And when they aren't scoring there is always action going on, tackling, big hits and no RIDICULOUS HORN BLOWING.  In soccer I literally can pause the game and fast foward to the goal scoring, and what did I miss?  Just some passing, and maybe if I'm lucky a headbutt.   Ah that is the legacy of soccer,  bringing flopping into basketball.

ALTHOUGH, I do love how the entire world has figured out to have a whole soccer match without one commercial, while I have to sit through five minutes of commericals every ten minutes of gametime(if I'm lucky). This applies to basketball and football.



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Pharaoh said:
Trying to get into the world cup by watching the south africa vs. mexico and now the france match but watching just strengthens why americans hate this "sport".

1) The stupid horns. I have to watch with the mute button on or else my head will explode. They don't even blow them for any reason, i.e. when their team is on defense.
2) THE HORNS. Its like hearing a baby slowly skinned alive.
3) Both games are scoreless the whole first half!! What a waste of time.

4) The game ends in a tie! Its not a competitive sport if no one wins. Its basically wasting 2 hours of your life.

5) If the u.s. didn't have football, basketball, baseball, and our athletes grew up playing soccer, this wouldn't even be a contest.  Our athletes are just that much physically better.

The Bolded is true. Look at Mark McGwire Jason Giambi and Barry bonds

Edit: Where are the bloody emoticons? If I don't find them soon people are going to get very angry with me (that one I remembered)



Lord Flashheart said:
Kasz216 said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Kasz216 said:


Your fix makes no sense at all though.  Assosiation football wasn't derived from American football in the least. 

Nvermind. I thought you was talking about Yanks goinf from Grid Iron to Football recentlyas you was talking about America.

As you weren't what was your point. People went from football to... football? Being pedantic is one thing but you and everyone else knows football and association football is still football.

Except it isn't.   Before the rules of Football were codified, Rugby and Assosiation Football were considered the same game.

Like say Basektball where the 3-point line is in different places.

Rugby Football was also just football until the rules were codified for it.

Football was still called football long before the rules were formalised. True that Rugby and Football used the name but then rugby changed it and later football adjusted its to include association to avoid confusion. Doesn't change the fact it was called football from the start (or near abouts) and isn't called association football unless on a legal document or if you are a Yank being difficult. Also doesn't change the fact that the name Soccer came after association.

Everything was callled Football.  Rugby didn't actually change it's name.  Ask Australia what a football club is.  They'll point you to a Rugby club.

Most of the world just uses the wrong name, because it's easier for them.  It's still the wrong name.  So getting on people who call american football, football is about the clearest definition of hypocricy you could have.

American football has ALWAYS just been called Football.

Including Legal documents.... so if that's the arguement path you want to go down... you are argueing your own defeat.