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Forums - Sony - SONY: ”Ken Kutaragi Was A GENIUS”....PS3 Future “Vibrant”

Solid_Snake4RD on 10 June 2010
leatherhat said:
TheSource said:

It certainly did take a kind of genius to go from profiting $1b year from Playstation products to losing almost that much per year while in the same stroke going from 70% market share to 25% market share in the space of five years. Previous declines happened much slower.

(End Sarcasm)



As a figurehead of this site, shouldn't you at least pretend to be impartial?


lol on the SITE ADMINS of VGC



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leatherhat on 10 June 2010

Crazy Ken built the playstation from spare parts in a cave. Then he dominated the market for ten years, and while his last endeavor lost the market share, its by far the best piece of hardware in the console market with the best games- and you can't play market share anyhow.



ǝןdɯıs ʇı dǝǝʞ oʇ ǝʞıן ı ʍouʞ noʎ 

Ask me about being an elitist jerk

Time for hype

Maynard_Tool on 10 June 2010
TheSource said:

You guys are so sensitive - I didn't insult PS1 / PS2 games but you guys are pretending like Sony is the same monolothic power it was from 1996-2005 and attributing only the good to Kurtagi while ignoring the bad. What I said is true - PS3 and PSP have far lower market share than they were supposed to and have cost the company enormous sums of money. Again, I haven't knocked the games - but a fall from 70% domination in the PS2 era to a third of that with PS3, and claiming that PSP would take portable gaming out of the ghetto all reeks of anything but brilliance at forecasting the future. Get over it. Kurtagi was responsible for PSP and PS3 planning - wouldn't you laugh if I called Bernie Stolar of Sega a genius for designing the strategy of the Saturn depiste the hugely profitable Genesis in the prior generation. Come on.


You should know better. You can't argue with the Sony defense force in this site x_x



03/10/09 HUGE day in my life:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=63437&page=1

RageBot on 10 June 2010

I also kinda agree with The Source on this, making the PS3 as it is was a mistake, they should've gone for a cheaper to make, even if less powerful hardware.

Can you guys imagine what would've happened if the PS3 was 300$ at launch? And probably had all of those now multiplatform games as exclusives?



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Solid_Snake4RD on 10 June 2010
TheSource said:

You guys are so sensitive - I didn't insult PS1 / PS2 games but you guys are pretending like Sony is the same monolothic power it was from 1996-2005 and attributing only the good to Kurtagi while ignoring the bad. What I said is true - PS3 and PSP have far lower market share than they were supposed to and have cost the company enormous sums of money. Again, I haven't knocked the games - but a fall from 70% domination in the PS2 era to a third of that with PS3, and claiming that PSP would take portable gaming out of the ghetto all reeks of anything but brilliance at forecasting the future. Get over it. Kurtagi was responsible for PSP and PS3 planning - wouldn't you laugh if I called Bernie Stolar of Sega a genius for designing the strategy of the Saturn depiste the hugely profitable Genesis in the prior generation. Come on.


if PS3was to be in first place with selling PS3 at $299 to compete with Wii,it would have seriouslt bankrupt SONY as 80m consoles would have sold till now at that price and no amount of software can earn back that amount of loss inflicted

 

SONY itself knew and they were the one to put in BLU-RAY for their future royalties not Ken Kutaragi

 

so they decuded that they could take sertain loss for future



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Maynard_Tool on 10 June 2010
RageBot said:

I also kinda agree with The Source on this, making the PS3 as it is was a mistake, they should've gone for a cheaper to make, even if less powerful hardware.

Can you guys imagine what would've happened if the PS3 was 300$ at launch? And probably had all of those now multiplatform games as exclusives?


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03/10/09 HUGE day in my life:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=63437&page=1

darthdevidem01 on 10 June 2010
RageBot said:

I also kinda agree with The Source on this, making the PS3 as it is was a mistake, they should've gone for a cheaper to make, even if less powerful hardware.

Can you guys imagine what would've happened if the PS3 was 300$ at launch? And probably had all of those now multiplatform games as exclusives?

I'd rather play Uncharted 2 in the form it was given to us than worry about SONY's finances thanks!



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

selnor on 10 June 2010
TheSource said:

You guys are so sensitive - I didn't insult PS1 / PS2 games but you guys are pretending like Sony is the same monolothic power it was from 1996-2005 and attributing only the good to Kurtagi while ignoring the bad. What I said is true - PS3 and PSP have far lower market share than they were supposed to and have cost the company enormous sums of money. Again, I haven't knocked the games - but a fall from 70% domination in the PS2 era to a third of that with PS3, and claiming that PSP would take portable gaming out of the ghetto all reeks of anything but brilliance at forecasting the future. Get over it. Kurtagi was responsible for PSP and PS3 planning - wouldn't you laugh if I called Bernie Stolar of Sega a genius for designing the strategy of the Saturn depiste the hugely profitable Genesis in the prior generation. Come on.

I'm not here to troll. But The Source is dead right.

Ken said before PS3 launched that PS3 could be any price and it would sell. Effectively calling the fanbase morons by saying this. 

The article completely misses the fact that Ken relied entirely on the so called PS name. He failed to see that the PS2 was such a success because of the tremendous 3rd party support. Not because of the PS2. If the Xbox had all the 3rd party support or the wii, it would have been different and with better visuals. 

Ken made absolutely no business sense in PS3 and had no direction. Only now does PS3 have direction. It has an identity. Something Ken missed entirely. 

He effectively allowed M$ to move in on the gaming market. And because of that, M$ will now never let go. Sony have been recovering ever since he cocked up, and lost them all the PS2 profit. M$ saw there opening and took it. 

Yes Ken did ok with PS1 and 2 hardware ( well PS1 was more Nintendo than Sony ) but 3rd party support of which was many exclusives was the key. 



Carl on 10 June 2010
Maynard_Tool said:
Carl2291 said:
TheSource said:

It certainly did take a kind of genius to go from profiting $1b year from Playstation products to losing almost that much per year while in the same stroke going from 70% market share to 25% market share in the space of five years. Previous declines happened much slower.

(End Sarcasm)

I know, right! He totally didn't create arguably the greatest videogame system ever seen. Twice. Three times.

I mean, i bet he totally wishes that he was intelligent enough to try guess sales numbers for a single region once a week, and usually get them wrong!

(End Sarcasm)

Wait.... so he was the one who created the Nes and the Snes.... Oh my.... oh wait.

Well.... the greatest videogame system ever... that, you can argue and have different opinions.

Raw numbers.... something that you can't argue.

There is a reason why i said "arguably".



                            

Solid_Snake4RD on 10 June 2010
Grimes said:

Let's put it this way. Suppose the iPhone lost billions of dollars, Apple moved from profit into loss and at the same time the iPod went from 70% market share to 20% market share. You don't think Jobs wouldn't be under pressure to 'retire'?

if they were devloping a thing that were going to earn them billions in future then NO


AND as he has everything properly set and integrated