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O-D-C on 03 June 2010

worldwide: USA, China, Russia, EU

regional: Israel, North Korea, Pakistan, India, Iran, South Korea



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Moren on 03 June 2010

c'mon it's usa, evryne knows it usa, maybe japna too, but usa...



headshot91 on 03 June 2010
scottie said:

I would define Superpower not in terms of GDP or any easily compared factor like that, but by their influence on other countries. American corporations act in a selfish and shortsighted way and the economies of many European countries collapse - that is what it means to be a superpower.

 

If China wanted to, they could destroy the American economy, which would then destroy the global economy, thus China is a superpower, they just aren't (currently) abusing this superpowerfulness.

 

Europe, whilst having a whopping GDP has very little economic impact on the rest of the world and is thus not a superpower

I'm going to have to disagree with you. Europe has a HUGE impact econnomically on the rest of the world. Taken as a whole its EASILY the worlds biggest exporter, importer of goods/services (over three times as much as china), and is the largest trading partner to many countries such as India/China. This entire stock market plunge atm is due to the world wondering whether Greece, and more importantly the Euro will survive...



jonnhytesta on 03 June 2010

Japan is permanently occupied by the American Empire since 1945 so no. and the American Empire cant defeat China (it can cotrol it and protect Taiwan, but defeat it and conquer it......mmm No.

and abou the EU: moderns europeans dont like wars and europe has a huge  demographic problem . Europe average birthrate is 1,3; no human civilization has EVER recover from that. they dont have enough young men to fight and maintain the "pax americana".

p.s. China has demographics problems too, not as bad as europe of course.



scottie on 03 June 2010
jonnhytesta said:

Japan is permanently occupied by the American Empire since 1945 so no. and the American Empire cant defeat China (it can cotrol it and protect Taiwan, but defeat it and conquer it......mmm No.


1952 called, they want their version of current events back. America currently has some troops stationed there, but *checks figures* hey, they are outnumbered by Japanese soldiers (active and reserves) by almost 10 to 1



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yo_john117 on 03 June 2010

The US is a dying super power imo....and thats the only super power I can think of right now.



Kantor on 04 June 2010
jonnhytesta said:

Japan is permanently occupied by the American Empire since 1945 so no. and the American Empire cant defeat China (it can cotrol it and protect Taiwan, but defeat it and conquer it......mmm No.

and abou the EU: moderns europeans dont like wars and europe has a huge  demographic problem . Europe average birthrate is 1,3; no human civilization has EVER recover from that. they dont have enough young men to fight and maintain the "pax americana".

p.s. China has demographics problems too, not as bad as europe of course.

Who's going to declare war on Europe?

Besides, Europe is allied with America, and between them they have more nukes than the rest of the world combined.



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Slimebeast on 05 June 2010

lol the EU definately is not a superpower. China is on its way but not there yet, not in a good while.



Slimebeast on 05 June 2010
headshot91 said:
scottie said:

I would define Superpower not in terms of GDP or any easily compared factor like that, but by their influence on other countries. American corporations act in a selfish and shortsighted way and the economies of many European countries collapse - that is what it means to be a superpower.

 

If China wanted to, they could destroy the American economy, which would then destroy the global economy, thus China is a superpower, they just aren't (currently) abusing this superpowerfulness.

 

Europe, whilst having a whopping GDP has very little economic impact on the rest of the world and is thus not a superpower

I'm going to have to disagree with you. Europe has a HUGE impact econnomically on the rest of the world. Taken as a whole its EASILY the worlds biggest exporter, importer of goods/services (over three times as much as china), and is the largest trading partner to many countries such as India/China. This entire stock market plunge atm is due to the world wondering whether Greece, and more importantly the Euro will survive...

Maybe Greece is a superpower too then lol. You said it yourself, because apparently with the stock market plunge Greece has had a huge impact economically on the rest of the world.



headshot91 on 05 June 2010
Slimebeast said:
headshot91 said:
scottie said:

I would define Superpower not in terms of GDP or any easily compared factor like that, but by their influence on other countries. American corporations act in a selfish and shortsighted way and the economies of many European countries collapse - that is what it means to be a superpower.

 

If China wanted to, they could destroy the American economy, which would then destroy the global economy, thus China is a superpower, they just aren't (currently) abusing this superpowerfulness.

 

Europe, whilst having a whopping GDP has very little economic impact on the rest of the world and is thus not a superpower

I'm going to have to disagree with you. Europe has a HUGE impact econnomically on the rest of the world. Taken as a whole its EASILY the worlds biggest exporter, importer of goods/services (over three times as much as china), and is the largest trading partner to many countries such as India/China. This entire stock market plunge atm is due to the world wondering whether Greece, and more importantly the Euro will survive...

Maybe Greece is a superpower too then lol. You said it yourself, because apparently with the stock market plunge Greece has had a huge impact economically on the rest of the world.


Not really, the superficial cause may be Greece, but as i continued afterwards, it has more deeper, Europe wide reasons. Such as the PIIGS and the euro in general.