I play both 360 games and wii games and I think what you are saying is not true. How many wii games have you played from start to finish? Which games? I'm interested do you apply the same conditions to your own opinions as you do to wii owners opinions? Personally I found uncharted to be boring as crap but I'm willing to let other people have their own opinions and also I'm not going to judge the game as I've only played it for a short time. There are definitely HD games that have great gameplay but many of them are dogs. There are definitely wii games that have bad gameplay but some of them are outstanding.

Edit: this was in response to leatherhat

i can partially agree with you though i wouldnt call all who are obsessed with graphics newbies or anything. I can say that i dislike how gamers are always comparing graohics and such and hardly seem to enjoy the game.

What? Look at recent ps3 exclusives. You get both the graphic part of the game and great single player experience. 

Up until 2004, yes.

elitist way of thinking - not much different to what you condemn

gaming isn't about fun anymore, because there are so many people bitching about what others enjoy

Nintendo fans Scream Graphics at Playstation fans Last couple Gens

Playstation Fans Scream Sales At Nintendo fans Last Gen

Xbox Fans Scream LIVE And Graphics at Playstation and Nintendo fans (still Doing that! )

Lafiel pretty much nailed it for me. Elitism in general is what bugs me the most. No, Nintendo is not the only capable developer in the world, and not every single Wii owner laments HD support! >_<

i think we are in a golden era of gaming and there's nothing wrong with being a graphics whore. Just because nintendo sells bucket loads of crap at the same price as hd games don't make it great. I mean some of those games can be straight downloads on either 360 or ps3 .

i don't care how "fun" a game is it's not worth 40 bucks if it only takes up 1/5 of my blu ray!

and what's "killing" the industry is too many idiots writing on here and not enjoying the experience of the games that have and will come out. (to think devs work so hard for this bullshit is beyond me)

@Vetteman94,he started by saying that the ONLY people dat bitch & whine about graphics are NEWBIES to gaming. That doesn't mean he implied dat all HD games suck. He only means that when someone prioritizes graphics above every other aspect, they come across to him as newbies. I'm mainly a nintendo gamer, but if you look at my favorite games, all of them have stellar technical achievements for their time & console capabilities. Sure, the gameplay's the most important to me, but both myself and the op, and definitely any hardcore wii owner, appreciate good graphics/technical feats.
My personal top 5 of all time:
1. Zelda:Ocarina of Time
2. Zelda:Majora's Mask
3. Mario Galaxy
4. Metal Gear Solid 3
5. Golden Sun 2
Smash bros brawl is my all time best multiplayer game. I haven't beaten a single HD game this gen. Otherwise, I'm sure my 4th & 5th entries would be different. Due 2 my wallet, for now I can only afford a wii but at least you can see that apart from Zelda (which had OK graphics and really GREAT technical feats on the N64), all the other games I mentioned are literally the best looking games on their respecti