Before everyone goes writing off religion, Islam actually specifically talks about the Big Bang.

I am fairly sure proposition 8 was in the 21st century. Maybe you should crawl out of the hole you have been living in for the past 10 years.

ramming their ideas down people's throats? is that not what alot of atheists do with their "god isnt real and religion is stupid and you people are stupid for believing in it it" shit? your right, many religious people do try to push their beliefs on others, but atheists are no different with their beliefs.

you dont believe in religion, which is fine. but is it really necessary to tell people who do that they are morons?

As I said, atheists just don't want religious people making the rules because they read them in one fairy tale or another. I frankly don't give a damn whether someone believes in unicorns and leprechauns or not, as long as they shut their trap about it. If they can't then just get rid of the whole idea behind it.

What, you mean the UK? Seeing how a lot of the USA (or a larger proportion of the Americans I see on TV) seems to support installing pro-discrimination laws such as the persecution of gays, Id much rather stay in my hole

And that is because religion still has a very strong grip in the US. If it didn't there would probably be a ton more sensibility.

That's pure creationists, not those who believe in Intelligent Design.

Personally i believe in a creator but i also believe in science

The scientific evidence is strong but at the same time Chance and the complexity of the universe dictates the possibilities to be so minute that there HAD to be a guiding force.

natural selection is great in some ways but at some point it dosnt make sense. there are MICRO organisms LET alone Humans or Animals that have parts so complex that its impossible for NATURAL selection to have created it ... the parts by themselves would have been useless and would have been selected OUT rather then kept until it became useful. in this particular instance i am thinking of an organism that has a tail that works as a motor to push it along but it needs EVERY part to work and if just one part is missing the whole thing is worthless therefor natural selection would have simply removed those parts rather then them getting more and more till it worked.

people need to learn that science and god really go hand in hand rather than ONLY one or the other is truth

I have nothing against religion. Just creationism.

I actually agree with that definition of God- a guiding force in the Universe. But I don't think we can really personify it, because it's not human. It shouldn't be worshipped, any more than gravity or electromagnetism.

That's just my view.