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Solid_Snake4RD on 31 May 2010
disolitude said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
leo-j said:
don't get a samsung if you are going 3d..

trust me it's all depth not 3D

yes the samsung ones aren't good,LG's are the same too

 

i think they didn't work on their TV and just wanted to get ahead of the competion so they launched their 3DTV's are SONY's announcement last year

I have yet to see you post something correct on this forum. No one rushed any TVs out. Samsung had 3D TV's since 2007 but none of them were LCD. The new LCD's are vasly improved for 2D and 3D than anything available "last year". LG as well, they didn't have 3D TV's till 2010.

Your Sony bias is becoming tiresome.

not SONY bias

 

just the fact that when i experienced the SAMSUNG and the LG Infinia,they were bad.almost nothing was 3D.

 

Samsung were in 3D space from 2007 but almost nonexistant

 

 

and their current promotion is the same

 

and am not saying that SONY or any other are gonna be any better

 

just that the one launched till now are shit,will have to check out the SONY and SHARP ones if they are any better

 

also the SAMSUNG launch was just out of the blues

 



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disolitude on 31 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:
leo-j said:
don't get a samsung if you are going 3d..

trust me it's all depth not 3D

Sorry leo J, this isnt' correct. They are all the same tech and work pretty much the same.

If it was all "depth" then it wasn't the TV but the movie you were watching.  You prolly saw Monsters VS Aliens which is a 3D movie converted.

Samsung has an early advantage as they've been doing 3D with plasmas and DLPs sine 2007. I'd go with samsung over anything at the moment else to be honest...

OT - I may try it. I have a TV which will work but no PS3. If the games are mindblowing in 3D I'll get a PS3...but I am not holding my breath. If its not 80% as good as 3D vision on the PC I prolly wont bother

 

samsungs are polarised,some companies are taking out Shutter glass tech

 

SAMsung is very bad,even are LG.I have experienced them and its like you are just watching a darker image with black glasses.there is no 3D effect

 

it is so typical SAMSUNG and LG,that they just wanted to get ahead of the competition and they released products that haven't been properly reseached and worked on.

 

their 3DTV plans weren't even out until JAN and that was too because of SONY announcing the 3D for this years with all its PS3,WORLD CUP,etc promotions.

 

SAMSUNG and LG just put out products when the tech is coming and never bring something revolutionary."OH 3D is gonna be big and all these companies are promoting it and taking out products,let us to take one out of our own"

 

the early promotion of SAmsung on DLP's and plasma is almost inexistant

 

i have seen AVATAR game and some other PC games on my friend's SAMSUNG 3DTV(the new ones),he like a fool just went and bought it cause he thought it is the new 'BIG THING' without even comparing it with other 3DTV's and techs


lol...you crack me up dude.

1. the new 3D TV's (samsung, LG) don't work with 3D vision or 3D gaming on pc yet. You and your magical friend must have been playing some magical prototype version of avatar with this TV.

2. Samsung had this tech ready in 2009 as they released 3D monitors for 3D vision. They waited for the HDMI 1.4 to be finalized in order to release LCD TV's. They are at least 2 years ahead of Sony in the 3D TV tech hence they could release this early.

3. You "saw" this TV and it was no good. Did you play around with depth or conversion? Do you even know what this means?

4. Samsung does not make a single polarized display. I don't tknow what you are talking about.

5. There is nothing "revolutionary" that Sony can do with the actual TVs. All TV needs to do is display a frame to each eye and make the glasses shutter. Samsung TV does this perfectly. As does LG 3D TV. After that its all about the content. Content makes the 3D look great on any TV and pop out...not the TV it self.



disolitude on 31 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:
JGarret said:

Killzone 3 has been confirmed to support 3D and it looks like Gran Turismo 5 will also support it...probably other titles will join in time...if you own a PS3, are you planning to get a 3DTV sometime in the future and take advantage of the 3D support?

By the end of the year I´ll probably be getting a 55" 3D LED HDTV (Samsung, it costs about $3,000.00) but nothing is set in stone right now.

 

Id strongly consider Plasma 3D tvs from Samsung or panasonic if you are considering spending that kind of money. They are simple beter for 3d:

1. Plasma TVs have pretty much instantaneous pixel refresh rates and this results in a lack of ghosting and blurring in fast motion videos. LCD's I saw (even LED ones) still have slight ghosting

2. Contrast - when you are flipping between 2 pictures for each eye per second you want as much contrast as you can get. Plasmas still rape LCD's in contrast.

3. Moving picture resolution - Plasamas are the only TV's on the market capable of delivering true 1080p resolution in 3D to each eye. The best LCDs can do 800 lines tops...

 

really no LCD can do 1080p 3D?

didn't know that cause SAMSUNG and all the other companies are advertising it as FULLHD 3D

That is right. go to google and type "moving picture resolution" and do some reading.

And please stop posting things like they are facts when you are uneducated about them.



mtofu on 31 May 2010

i'm interested in the 3d tv, but not 3d gaming. of course if i have a 3d set i would play the games that way.

i want a new tv for the main floor but both 3d and led tech is too expensive right now. if a good sale comes around i'll go for it but until then the 50" plasma is doing fine.



Solid_Snake4RD on 31 May 2010
disolitude said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:
JGarret said:

Killzone 3 has been confirmed to support 3D and it looks like Gran Turismo 5 will also support it...probably other titles will join in time...if you own a PS3, are you planning to get a 3DTV sometime in the future and take advantage of the 3D support?

By the end of the year I´ll probably be getting a 55" 3D LED HDTV (Samsung, it costs about $3,000.00) but nothing is set in stone right now.

 

Id strongly consider Plasma 3D tvs from Samsung or panasonic if you are considering spending that kind of money. They are simple beter for 3d:

1. Plasma TVs have pretty much instantaneous pixel refresh rates and this results in a lack of ghosting and blurring in fast motion videos. LCD's I saw (even LED ones) still have slight ghosting

2. Contrast - when you are flipping between 2 pictures for each eye per second you want as much contrast as you can get. Plasmas still rape LCD's in contrast.

3. Moving picture resolution - Plasamas are the only TV's on the market capable of delivering true 1080p resolution in 3D to each eye. The best LCDs can do 800 lines tops...

 

really no LCD can do 1080p 3D?

didn't know that cause SAMSUNG and all the other companies are advertising it as FULLHD 3D

That is right. go to google and type "moving picture resolution" and do some reading.

And please stop posting things like they are facts when you are uneducated about them.

moving picture resolution is also a problem without 3D.

 

many LCD FULL HD till today have only 900 lines of HD image in a 2D image so if the same can be done in 3D so is alrite

 

the motion picture res problem is not because of 3D but another problem



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disolitude on 31 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:
JGarret said:

Killzone 3 has been confirmed to support 3D and it looks like Gran Turismo 5 will also support it...probably other titles will join in time...if you own a PS3, are you planning to get a 3DTV sometime in the future and take advantage of the 3D support?

By the end of the year I´ll probably be getting a 55" 3D LED HDTV (Samsung, it costs about $3,000.00) but nothing is set in stone right now.

 

Id strongly consider Plasma 3D tvs from Samsung or panasonic if you are considering spending that kind of money. They are simple beter for 3d:

1. Plasma TVs have pretty much instantaneous pixel refresh rates and this results in a lack of ghosting and blurring in fast motion videos. LCD's I saw (even LED ones) still have slight ghosting

2. Contrast - when you are flipping between 2 pictures for each eye per second you want as much contrast as you can get. Plasmas still rape LCD's in contrast.

3. Moving picture resolution - Plasamas are the only TV's on the market capable of delivering true 1080p resolution in 3D to each eye. The best LCDs can do 800 lines tops...

 

really no LCD can do 1080p 3D?

didn't know that cause SAMSUNG and all the other companies are advertising it as FULLHD 3D

That is right. go to google and type "moving picture resolution" and do some reading.

And please stop posting things like they are facts when you are uneducated about them.

moving picture resolution is also a problem without 3D.

 

many LCD FULL HD till today have only 900 lines of HD image in a 2D image so if the same can be done in 3D so is alrite

 

the motion picture res problem is not because of 3D but another problem


Top of the line LED LCD's have 900 lines of moving picture resolution, but sub 2000 dollar ones...forget it. In comparison, most Panasonic palsmas have 1080 lines of moving resolution, even lower end models.  Its not a "problem" but a limitation of the current LCD pannels. Hence why I am saying Plamas are better for 3D.

1. Better contrasts (needed since thigns get dark when shutter glasses are on),

2. much faster refresh rate (needed since the screen is changing 120 frames each second), 

3. true 1080p resolution to each eye when the picture is moving.

What is not clear about my post?

I know that if I was buying a new 3d TV, I wouldn't even touch an LCD if Plasmas are available, due to ghosting that all LCD models will have. Even Sony ones... I saw them first hand in the sony store and there is really not much difference between Sony 3d LCD TVs and Samsung ones.



fps_d0minat0r on 31 May 2010

not for atleast another year.



Solid_Snake4RD on 31 May 2010
disolitude said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:
JGarret said:

Killzone 3 has been confirmed to support 3D and it looks like Gran Turismo 5 will also support it...probably other titles will join in time...if you own a PS3, are you planning to get a 3DTV sometime in the future and take advantage of the 3D support?

By the end of the year I´ll probably be getting a 55" 3D LED HDTV (Samsung, it costs about $3,000.00) but nothing is set in stone right now.

 

Id strongly consider Plasma 3D tvs from Samsung or panasonic if you are considering spending that kind of money. They are simple beter for 3d:

1. Plasma TVs have pretty much instantaneous pixel refresh rates and this results in a lack of ghosting and blurring in fast motion videos. LCD's I saw (even LED ones) still have slight ghosting

2. Contrast - when you are flipping between 2 pictures for each eye per second you want as much contrast as you can get. Plasmas still rape LCD's in contrast.

3. Moving picture resolution - Plasamas are the only TV's on the market capable of delivering true 1080p resolution in 3D to each eye. The best LCDs can do 800 lines tops...

 

really no LCD can do 1080p 3D?

didn't know that cause SAMSUNG and all the other companies are advertising it as FULLHD 3D

That is right. go to google and type "moving picture resolution" and do some reading.

And please stop posting things like they are facts when you are uneducated about them.

moving picture resolution is also a problem without 3D.

 

many LCD FULL HD till today have only 900 lines of HD image in a 2D image so if the same can be done in 3D so is alrite

 

the motion picture res problem is not because of 3D but another problem


Top of the line LED LCD's have 900 lines of moving picture resolution, but sub 2000 dollar ones...forget it. In comparison, most Panasonic palsmas have 1080 lines of moving resolution, even lower end models.  Its not a "problem" but a limitation of the current LCD pannels. Hence why I am saying Plamas are better for 3D.

1. Better contrasts (needed since thigns get dark when shutter glasses are on),

2. much faster refresh rate (needed since the screen is changing 120 frames each second), 

3. true 1080p resolution to each eye when the picture is moving.

What is not clear about my post?

I know that if I was buying a new 3d TV, I wouldn't even touch an LCD if Plasmas are available, due to ghosting that all LCD models will have. Even Sony ones... I saw them first hand in the sony store and there is really not much difference between Sony 3d LCD TVs and Samsung ones.

i didn't say sony are gonna be any better,nobody knows that.they haven't even launched

 

just that the way SAMSUNG promote their products and are very passive about it and only take out a tech when everybody else is and when that etch is booming is a very bad habit of theirs which i don't like

 

i do not hate their products if they are good just that their 3DTV's didn't appeal to me

 

now back to the the main discussions,plasmas are better than LCD even in 2D but Plasma isn't coming back.LCD are the winners.

 

only thing we can hope is if OLED come and do a good job

 

and that we compare 3D on different LCD's



disolitude on 31 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:

i didn't say sony are gonna be any better,nobody knows that.they haven't even launched

 

just that the way SAMSUNG promote their products and are very passive about it and only take out a tech when everybody else is and when that etch is booming is a very bad habit of theirs which i don't like

 

i do not hate their products if they are good just that their 3DTV's didn't appeal to me

 

now back to the the main discussions,plasmas are better than LCD even in 2D but Plasma isn't coming back.LCD are the winners.

 

only thing we can hope is if OLED come and do a good job

 

and that we compare 3D on different LCD's

Plasma never left. The reason why LCD sells more is because you can't make a plasma under 42 inches in size and keep the product price competitive. LCDs have higher profit margins hence more companies make it.When you get to 50 inches or more, plasma is still a large portion of the market. Not to mention that R&D is still being done on plasmas by Panasonic and Samsung...Its a shame Pioneer left the Tv market as their plasma TVs were better than anything else on the market.

In any case, to me its all about choice. 3D on DLP TVs, laser tv, plasma, LCD...the more the marreir. I for one sure hope Mitsubishi keeps building their DLP TV sets. I'll buy their 82 inch DLP model if tey do sometime in 2012...which is when I hope to buy a house. :)



disolitude on 31 May 2010
halil23 said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:
JGarret said:

Killzone 3 has been confirmed to support 3D and it looks like Gran Turismo 5 will also support it...probably other titles will join in time...if you own a PS3, are you planning to get a 3DTV sometime in the future and take advantage of the 3D support?

By the end of the year I´ll probably be getting a 55" 3D LED HDTV (Samsung, it costs about $3,000.00) but nothing is set in stone right now.

 

Id strongly consider Plasma 3D tvs from Samsung or panasonic if you are considering spending that kind of money. They are simple beter for 3d:

1. Plasma TVs have pretty much instantaneous pixel refresh rates and this results in a lack of ghosting and blurring in fast motion videos. LCD's I saw (even LED ones) still have slight ghosting

2. Contrast - when you are flipping between 2 pictures for each eye per second you want as much contrast as you can get. Plasmas still rape LCD's in contrast.

3. Moving picture resolution - Plasamas are the only TV's on the market capable of delivering true 1080p resolution in 3D to each eye. The best LCDs can do 800 lines tops...

 

really no LCD can do 1080p 3D?

didn't know that cause SAMSUNG and all the other companies are advertising it as FULLHD 3D

Dude, don't waste your time with him! Don't embarrass yourself by talking to a wall...

BTW, thanks to disolitude for derailing the thread before it even reach page 2!! Rarely you stay on topic eh!

OT : Hopefully I'll get it by years end and hopefully Sony bundle it with PS3 like they've been doing regularly, need another PS3 for my soon to be home theater!

BTW, will companies make 3D home projectors?


Well first post I made was on topic but people like Solid_snake post wrong info. Everything I've said i this thread has been said to correct people stating false info. I can't help it when people have a wild imagination when it comes to 3D products...

Otherwise best 3D setup you can do right now is done with projectors. 2 of them to be exact.

2 X 1080p@60hz projectors pointing at 1 screen set up in linear polarized manner will give you a 3D experience that will destroy LCD, Plasma, LED...anything available. Not to mention you need 1 dollar glasses for anyone that wants to watch 3D.

Otherwise the first 3D capable standalone 1080p projector is coming...and costs 10K.  http://www.slashgear.com/lg-cf3d-3d-projector-arrives-may-for-10k-0768920/