It wasn't that they didn't allow Sony to use them but rather that simply just wasn't part of the deal. Philips was offering a disc drive for Nintendo to use at a low cost but they'd get to license a few Nintendo IP's for their own console - the CD-i.

See, Philips already had their own console out. Sony didn't. So it wouldn't make sense for Sony to want to license Nintendo IP's at the time because they didn't have a console already out....and worse still is that they would eventually have rights to ALL Nintendo IP's anyway as part of the contract they wrote.

pretty dumb move by nintenodo... costed them losing 2 gens straight and they didnt benifit at all. They should have let Sony use their IPs, we all know Sony>>>>>>>>>>>Philips in gaming

Phillips got ot use them for a few games.

Sony woould have had them forever.

FOR-EV-ER.

They benefited in that they kept control of their own IPs.

Pretty dumb?  So you'd just hand over youre entire business like that?

Nintendo still made more money with the N64 and GC than Sony did with the PS and PS2.

All these companies hating on Nintendo means that Nintendo is doing something right.

they hand over their buisnes to Phlips, so why not to Sony instead??? What is so horrible about Sony using their IPs??? They werent even in a gaming industry back than

And no they didnt, the only reason Nintendo made more money is becuase of their HANDHELD hardware and software sales COMBINED with their gamecube sales, PS2 alone made much more money than GC alone, thats for sure at least. Same with PS1 and N64.

they still would have had control of their IPs, its just that Sony could also use them

Negative. Nintendo saw that if they'd sign Sony's contract, Sony would have complete control over their IPs. History has proven that Nintendo has made the right choice.

Try reading what others have said- the deal with Philips was to license the properties for a few titles, while Nintendo still retained ownership. Whereas the deal with Sony, with Sony's hand in the CD format, would have given ownership TO SONY of any property put on a CD format. So Mario 64 would be on a CD? Guess what? Sony now owns it, despite having done nothing in the making of it! Nintendo saw this, and obviously, did not agree to this term, hence why Philips was even brought into the picture. I would imagine that Nintendo had disclosure to Philips as to why they were being asked to do what was already publically known to be happening with Sony. Philips, making the deal sweeter for Nintendo, only asked to be able to use some of their IPs in their own games. Nintendo would keep intellectual rights to Mario, Link, etc, but they would show up on a few CD-i games, made by Philips. And yes, I do think that history shows that Nintendo cutting from Sony was correct. Had they not, I'd not be surprised if Nintendo we relegated to developing games for Sony systems by this point, with all the rights being owned by them.

As for your second paragraph, you don't know that for certain. We don't have breakdowns by system, so do not try to pass off your guess as fact. All that is known, is that Nintendo has always made a profit on their systems; the exact amount however, is not known. Likewise, it is also known that when Sony launched a system, it was sold at a loss initially. You might be able to find a point when the PS1 or PS2 went to profit per unit, but can you find the exact profit/loss prices based on all the retail points, cost decreases, etc? Probably not, so we don't know Sony's exact system margin either. If you can find ALL of the information I asked for, then maybe I'll believe it. Until then, I don't know which system did make more money, and I'll assume, neither do you.

Sony wrote up a contract saying that as long as Nintendo were using CD tech they'd have full run of the console and control and ownership of everything Nintendo has on their platform as well as the royalties, if you can't see for yourself that no platform holder in history or future would take that deal I'd advise you stay away from business ventures as that's a disastrous deal to sign, they made the right choice dumping the deal tbh.