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robjoh on 05 April 2007
mancandy said:
robjoh said:
Hus said:

 wii gamers are casual gamers or nin fan boys = low 3rd party sales.  No 3rd party will beat out Nin at making wii games, they will almost always be second rate.  Games will be mediocre becasue the console is weak.  So you wont see unreal 3, wii cant handle unreal engine 3!

3rd party devs have a choice... wii or PS3/360/PC

This games will be mediocre because Wii is week is also an opinion not a fact. You don't need Unreal 3 to do nice looking games, but of course you are a part of the Sony Defence Force and can't understand that.

 


How do I get in this Sony Defence Force thingy? It sounds sooooo cool!!!!

 Do I have to purchase a PS3 to get in? If so, then...um...maybe later.

EDIT: Just saw BenKenobi88 discussing my spelling...hey I am not from USA you know, and you said that I would give Hus a way out 
Other than that to join SDF: Just follow this mantra, PS3 will win because that it is Sony, no game on Wii can be anything else than kiddie and by the way 3rd party games doesn't sell on Nintendo plattforms. Most of all you have to state that Sony is doing just fine all the time. Quit easy to join actuly, more or less the same way to join Nintendo squad. Or you could just use your brain and the numbers that this site use and behave as an ordinary person.

 



 

 

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mancandy on 05 April 2007
robjoh said:
mancandy said:
robjoh said:
Hus said:

 wii gamers are casual gamers or nin fan boys = low 3rd party sales.  No 3rd party will beat out Nin at making wii games, they will almost always be second rate.  Games will be mediocre becasue the console is weak.  So you wont see unreal 3, wii cant handle unreal engine 3!

3rd party devs have a choice... wii or PS3/360/PC

This games will be mediocre because Wii is week is also an opinion not a fact. You don't need Unreal 3 to do nice looking games, but of course you are a part of the Sony Defence Force and can't understand that.

 


How do I get in this Sony Defence Force thingy? It sounds sooooo cool!!!!

 Do I have to purchase a PS3 to get in? If so, then...um...maybe later.

EDIT: Just saw BenKenobi88 discussing my spelling...hey I am not from USA you know, and you said that I would give Hus a way out 
Other than that to join SDF: Just follow this mantra, PS3 will win because that it is Sony, no game on Wii can be anything else than kiddie and by the way 3rd party games doesn't sell on Nintendo plattforms. Most of all you have to state that Sony is doing just fine all the time. Quit easy to join actuly, more or less the same way to join Nintendo squad. Or you could just use your brain and the numbers that this site use and behave as an ordinary person.

 


You forgot to mention SDF's slogan: "Silly rabbit, Wii is for kids!!!"



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robjoh on 05 April 2007
mancandy said:
robjoh said:
mancandy said:
robjoh said:
Hus said:

 wii gamers are casual gamers or nin fan boys = low 3rd party sales.  No 3rd party will beat out Nin at making wii games, they will almost always be second rate.  Games will be mediocre becasue the console is weak.  So you wont see unreal 3, wii cant handle unreal engine 3!

3rd party devs have a choice... wii or PS3/360/PC

This games will be mediocre because Wii is week is also an opinion not a fact. You don't need Unreal 3 to do nice looking games, but of course you are a part of the Sony Defence Force and can't understand that.

 


How do I get in this Sony Defence Force thingy? It sounds sooooo cool!!!!

 Do I have to purchase a PS3 to get in? If so, then...um...maybe later.

EDIT: Just saw BenKenobi88 discussing my spelling...hey I am not from USA you know, and you said that I would give Hus a way out 
Other than that to join SDF: Just follow this mantra, PS3 will win because that it is Sony, no game on Wii can be anything else than kiddie and by the way 3rd party games doesn't sell on Nintendo plattforms. Most of all you have to state that Sony is doing just fine all the time. Quit easy to join actuly, more or less the same way to join Nintendo squad. Or you could just use your brain and the numbers that this site use and behave as an ordinary person.

 


You forgot to mention SDF's slogan: "Silly rabbit, Wii is for kids!!!"

Damn forgot about that one...sorry hope you still are allowed to join SDF. Now can we get this thread back to what it is all about? Hus will you answer my post above, you know that one with all the numbers in that doesn't give PS3 much credit for good sales?

 



 

 

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Lord N on 05 April 2007
robjoh said:

 

 

Or why not: Total software sales on PS3 (that is all publishers including Sony) = 2,684,750
3rd party software sales on Wii (only 3rd parties, no Nintendo) = 3,346,250.

It took what, 11 games to achieve that number? Now take a look at the 360 where three games(Dead Rising, Gears Of War, Lost Planet) achieved about 75% of that. Throw in Rainbow Six, GRAW, and it exceeds that number.

The third-party software sales of the PS2 weren't anything to write home about at this point in time, either, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's the same way with the PS3. Wait until more of the heavy hitters come out(for both systems) and then make a comparison.

 

 



 

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robjoh on 05 April 2007
Lord N said:
robjoh said:

 

 

Or why not: Total software sales on PS3 (that is all publishers including Sony) = 2,684,750
3rd party software sales on Wii (only 3rd parties, no Nintendo) = 3,346,250.

It took what, 11 games to achieve that number? Now take a look at the 360 where three games(Dead Rising, Gears Of War, Lost Planet) achieved about 75% of that. Throw in Rainbow Six, GRAW, and it exceeds that number.

The third-party software sales of the PS2 weren't anything to write home about at this point in time, either, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's the same way with the PS3. Wait until more of the heavy hitters come out(for both systems) and then make a comparison.

 

 

To the first point: I have never stated that xbox360 3rd party sales is bad, if you notice in my post above I finish with the following sentence: If you should have the discussion as above, mention xbox360 and PC because PS3 isn't selling anything at all. That sentence might indicate that I belive that 3rd party sales on xbox360 is good, which I do belive.
To the second point: If Ridge Racer isn't a game that should have sold more than 200k during 4 months including december you know something I don't. Why should we wait for doing the comparsion when people state that Wii 3rd party sales is bad, and then state that making a port from xbox360 to PS3 would be much better. So far Wii has shown that it can stand on it's own which also is shown in the announced 3rd party exclusive the last month. Remeber I don't state that no one should make games for PS3, but I do state that the sales for Wii is enough for keeping 3rd parties in profit.
EDIT: Gears seems to be published by Microsoft, if that is correct I can't really understand why you bring that game to the table. (of course you could still change it agains NFL or anything it would probarbly show the same thing). Xbox360 3rd party sales are good

 



 

 

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johnlucas on 06 April 2007

Exactly JoelCool7.

I call Nintendo "Dad" & the 3rd parties "The kids".

Back in the day "Dad" made "The kids" tow the line. It was "Dad's house" and you obeyed "Dad's rules" as long as you lived under "Dad's roof". Cut and dry. No backtalk.

But "The Kids" grew up & rebelled against "Ol' Pops" & leaving "his roof". In recent times "Dad" has mellowed out & is reestablishing relations with "The kids".

If you wanna see me go on with parental analogy read my dialogue here in this thread "Sony CEO: 'Wii is wonderful!'"

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=804

It's at the very bottom of the page. You might get a good laugh out of it.

John Lucas



Words from the Official VGChartz Idiot

WE ARE THE NATION...OF DOMINATION!

 

Alacrist on 06 April 2007
Lord N said:
robjoh said:

 

 

Or why not: Total software sales on PS3 (that is all publishers including Sony) = 2,684,750
3rd party software sales on Wii (only 3rd parties, no Nintendo) = 3,346,250.

It took what, 11 games to achieve that number? Now take a look at the 360 where three games(Dead Rising, Gears Of War, Lost Planet) achieved about 75% of that. Throw in Rainbow Six, GRAW, and it exceeds that number.

The third-party software sales of the PS2 weren't anything to write home about at this point in time, either, so it shouldn't be surprising that it's the same way with the PS3. Wait until more of the heavy hitters come out(for both systems) and then make a comparison.

 

 


Lord N, the Wii has been out for 4 months, the best third-party games are not going to be out yet!

NA release dates check Wikipedia.com

The 360 released on 11/22/05.

Dead Rising released on 9/9/06.  9 1/2 months later

Gears of War (not third-party made by Microsoft Game Studios) released on 11/12/06. 12 months later

Lost Planet was released on 12/22/06. 13 months later.

But they are supposed to have top selling third-partys in 4 months lets keep it fair please.



 

  

 

Louie on 06 April 2007

What impresses me is the giant number of FPS on Wii. We´ve got Call of Duty, Red Steel, Medal of Honor, there are Manhunt and Metroid coming and Brothers in Arms. Than we´ve got Disaster this year and a Red Stell sequel is sure as hell maybe still in 2007...

Games like Prince of Persia, Zelda, even Brawl (which is a great fighter and deeper than some would think...) are very "adult" games to. Driver is coming out and Blur is a game for Experts too as it is Resident Evil 4 and Umbrella Cronicles.

So why should there just be fanboys and casual gamers? Is there a sign on the Wii: "Just for Fanboys and casuals"? The audience changes as the console does. There is not one audience and it never changes...



HappySqurriel on 06 April 2007
Louie said:

What impresses me is the giant number of FPS on Wii. We´ve got Call of Duty, Red Steel, Medal of Honor, there are Manhunt and Metroid coming and Brothers in Arms. Than we´ve got Disaster this year and a Red Stell sequel is sure as hell maybe still in 2007...

Games like Prince of Persia, Zelda, even Brawl (which is a great fighter and deeper than some would think...) are very "adult" games to. Driver is coming out and Blur is a game for Experts too as it is Resident Evil 4 and Umbrella Cronicles.

So why should there just be fanboys and casual gamers? Is there a sign on the Wii: "Just for Fanboys and casuals"? The audience changes as the console does. There is not one audience and it never changes...


I could be wrong, but I though Disaster Day of Crisis was more of a survival horror like Resident Evil?

 



Alacrist on 06 April 2007
HappySqurriel said:
Louie said:

What impresses me is the giant number of FPS on Wii. We´ve got Call of Duty, Red Steel, Medal of Honor, there are Manhunt and Metroid coming and Brothers in Arms. Than we´ve got Disaster this year and a Red Stell sequel is sure as hell maybe still in 2007...

Games like Prince of Persia, Zelda, even Brawl (which is a great fighter and deeper than some would think...) are very "adult" games to. Driver is coming out and Blur is a game for Experts too as it is Resident Evil 4 and Umbrella Cronicles.

So why should there just be fanboys and casual gamers? Is there a sign on the Wii: "Just for Fanboys and casuals"? The audience changes as the console does. There is not one audience and it never changes...


I could be wrong, but I though Disaster Day of Crisis was more of a survival horror like Resident Evil?

 


Disaster, according to the official Nintendo website, includes an earthquake, a volcanic eruption. and a tsunami. Game functions include driving, survival, and foot missions.

Similar to Agetec's Disaster Report and its sequel, Raw Danger, the player must survive many natural disasters. The player will take control of Ray, a former member of an elite rescue task force, and not only will Ray have to face nature, but also an unknown group of rogues who have taken advantage of the catastrophic events and seized an atomic weapon.