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Vivi vs. Kefka

Vivi 29 40.28%
 
Kefka 43 59.72%
 
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dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
Khuutra said:
Eh

Kefka tends to cast Fallen Angel in the middle of battle, then also follows that up with Ultima or Forsaken

Vivi might be able to do it if he was a combo-specc'd melee character from FFVI, but as he is in FFIX? Not a chance, even if he just cast Doomsday nonstop (Kefka is the fastest enemy in the game)

Final Fantasy IX is definitely the most restricted game in the series with getting a lot of damage in one turn, bosses from other FFs can't be damaged enough for FFIX characters to solo.

Actually, the most restricted was FFII. Unless you trained an individual weapon or magic to insanely high levels (over 80 at least), you would barely scratch the 500s on the final boss. Emperor Mateus had only 10K though.

So any character from FFII would be torn to shreads by any other FF boss, even if all characters partied up  

Who's ever played FFII?

I did

It was the very first FF game I played actually. I found it rather odd, almost like Dragon Warrior (a.k.a Dragon Quest) meets Elder Scrolls, with the learn-by-doing system, which didn't benefit FFII. Thankfully I played FFI afterwards and found it a much more accesible experience.

Not that FFII was hard per se, but the time consumption needed to actually progress through the game was ridiculous. Either you had insane stats to get through bosses without having the best items, or you had the best items (which you needed an insane amount of gil to get, as enemies dropped a very minute amount of gil) to compensate the lack of stats. Either way, you needed to do a ridiculous amount of farming to get through.



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TruckOSaurus said:
I remember Kefka's ability being called Fallen One, not fallen angel but one way or another he'd still win that fight.

You're correct, yet the descriptions of the abilities have been changed when it was ported to the GBA like Khuutra said and also when they released it on the PSX with FF Anthologies.

Actually I played the game on the Snes, but I couldn't recall the original name, so I went with what was more fresh in my mind. And I got it wrong, it was called Heartless Angel on the GBA version.



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TruckOSaurus said:
Ahhh I see... am I the only one who's played it on release on SNES? I'm so old....

Nah, the SNES version was my second FF game.



Khuutra said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Ahhh I see... am I the only one who's played it on release on SNES? I'm so old....

Nah, the SNES version was my second FF game.

FF4 was his first, which would explain his extraordinary love for it.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

dtewi said:
Khuutra said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Ahhh I see... am I the only one who's played it on release on SNES? I'm so old....

Nah, the SNES version was my second FF game.

FF4 was his first, which would explain his extraordinary love for it.

Dtewi I know a lot of people will humor you for overly reductive bullshit concerning what defines their tastes in video games, and a lot of people will participate in the back and forth banter that comes as a result of arguments over these points.

I am not one of those people.

I love FFIV for its own merits, appreciated it considerably more after playing the games that came after it, and will continue to appreciate it based on its own merits. That's all.



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Khuutra said:
dtewi said:
Khuutra said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Ahhh I see... am I the only one who's played it on release on SNES? I'm so old....

Nah, the SNES version was my second FF game.

FF4 was his first, which would explain his extraordinary love for it.

Dtewi I know a lot of people will humor you for overly reductive bullshit concerning what defines their tastes in video games, and a lot of people will participate in the back and forth banter that comes as a result of arguments over these points.

I am not one of those people.

I love FFIV for its own merits, appreciated it considerably more after playing the games that came after it, and will continue to appreciate it based on its own merits. That's all.

I think you have a faulty sarcasm detector, Khuutra.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

lestatdark said:
TruckOSaurus said:
I remember Kefka's ability being called Fallen One, not fallen angel but one way or another he'd still win that fight.

You're correct, yet the descriptions of the abilities have been changed when it was ported to the GBA like Khuutra said and also when they released it on the PSX with FF Anthologies.

Actually I played the game on the Snes, but I couldn't recall the original name, so I went with what was more fresh in my mind. And I got it wrong, it was called Heartless Angel on the GBA version.

You basically mixed the two names. For the record, I prefer Fallen One, it fits Kefka and it describes the spell well too since it leaves you with only 1HP.



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speaking of awesome villians, I remembered Luca Blight, he was such a bastard too