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AkibaFan on 18 May 2010
andremop said:
I would like to see proof that it was gimped... other than some 1 or 2 screenshots showing minor graphical differences... (that happens to every game in development)

Is there proof?

BTW... fuck, there are some elitist PS3 users posters in this thread that really makes me sick.

elitist, we hve had one game gimped like sum1 put it, ffxiii cud hve beent eh best game evr but xbox 360 ruine dit & ff13 got low metacritic. nw versus will see the same. how r we being elitist? atleast i am happy ff13 has sold very well & public is liking it, but many fans are disappointd because xbox 360 hs made it downscled



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only777 on 18 May 2010
AkibaFan said:
only777 said:
Final Fantasy XIII Versus probably will end up on 360. But after the s**t storm of XIII, does anyone care?

The only real Final Fantasy game to be thinking about is FFXIV which looks f**king stunning, and finally a game that can knock WoW of the top as king of MMORPG's.

If you have not seen the hours of FFXIV footage yet, which chances are you have not becuase most websites are in a pact with SE not to publish the leaked information, check my blog out, the links in the sig. I have s**t loads of footage.

ther is no shit storm tht u wnt to imagine ther hs been.

FF11 was a POS & FF14 will be too, get thos MMO's out of our ff main series. thts fcking wada's fault too.


So many things wrong with your post.

1) You'r not sending a text message, try to spell words correctly.

2) By saying MMO's have no place in the 'main' Final Fantasy Series, you have missed the whole point of Final Fantasy by a mile.  The point is that each game is different, each game comes to be an RPG from a different angle.  Is Final Fantasy XII like Final Fantasy VII?  No, they are both totally different games in style and play.  The point of Final Fantasy is that each time they are fresh, with new ideas.  If that new idea is creating the world online, then that is the idea.

3) SE own Final Fantasy, not you.  They can do what the hell they wish with it.



Sony want to make money by selling art, Nintendo want to make money by selling fun, Microsoft want to make money.

Rainbird on 18 May 2010
andremop said:
I would like to see proof that it was gimped... other than some 1 or 2 screenshots showing minor graphical differences... (that happens to every game in development)

Is there proof?

BTW... fuck, there are some elitist PS3 users posters in this thread that really makes me sick.

FF13 on the 360? Because that's easy. Or is it something else?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/tech-analysis-final-fantasy-xiii-article

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-endgame-article

I'm not reading them again so this might not be totally accurate, but from what I remember, the 360 version has lower resolution (which makes for noticably worse looking hair), much lower quality pre-rendered cutscenes (horrible video compression), and some serious frame rate dropping in two main areas later in the game.



andremop on 18 May 2010
geddesmond2 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
geddesmond2 said:

Oh there you go you didn't prove the game wasn't sacrificed meaning you just admitted you don't know anything about the FF series. I rest my case.  Wow I'm so glad you showed me that trick now I just owned you lol. See how childish that is.

I didn't say you never played other games in the series. I said your first FF game was probably 10. Theres a big differance there. So go on what was your first FF game?

Unneeded attacks? Wheres the attacks?

My first FF was FF7. All I see in your post is someone who is still in the post meltdown stage from E3 2008. 

 

Well I asked what FF game was your first because everyone I know who started playing the series from FF7 has had nothing good to say about FF13. I was annoyed that FF 13 was announced as multiplat in 2008 just like every other FF fan at the time but I got over it quickly and said hey at least the PS3 still gets it and its gonna be awesome. 2 years later and the game wasn't awesome.

Infact everything I liked about the FF series was ripped out of game and replaced with boring. I used to sit up until 4 am playing a new FF game and I'll admit that I've shed some tears to some parts of the series but FF13 did nothing for me. I found it even a struggle to play through an hour of the game. If the game wasn't sacrificed for a 360 version then SE have really fallen off and I won't be getting FFV13 even if it is still exclusive.

But after hearing a games worth of content was cut from the game and the story offered you no sense of freedom until chapter 11. I'm gonna safley say the 360 ruined the series I truely loved all because Microsoft chose to use DVD 9 as there disk of choice and if FFV13 goes multiplat then that game is ruined aswel.

 

Proof?

Or else we can "safley" say whatever we feel like here, don't we?



andremop on 18 May 2010
Rainbird said:
andremop said:
I would like to see proof that it was gimped... other than some 1 or 2 screenshots showing minor graphical differences... (that happens to every game in development)

Is there proof?

BTW... fuck, there are some elitist PS3 users posters in this thread that really makes me sick.

FF13 on the 360? Because that's easy. Or is it something else?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/tech-analysis-final-fantasy-xiii-article

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-endgame-article

I'm not reading them again so this might not be totally accurate, but from what I remember, the 360 version has lower resolution (which makes for noticably worse looking hair), much lower quality pre-rendered cutscenes (horrible video compression), and some serious frame rate dropping in two main areas later in the game.

You missed my point.


What I want proof is why that the 360 version "ruined" or "gimped" the game. Not that it has some minor graphical differences.



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geddesmond2 on 18 May 2010
andremop said:
geddesmond2 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
geddesmond2 said:

Oh there you go you didn't prove the game wasn't sacrificed meaning you just admitted you don't know anything about the FF series. I rest my case.  Wow I'm so glad you showed me that trick now I just owned you lol. See how childish that is.

I didn't say you never played other games in the series. I said your first FF game was probably 10. Theres a big differance there. So go on what was your first FF game?

Unneeded attacks? Wheres the attacks?

My first FF was FF7. All I see in your post is someone who is still in the post meltdown stage from E3 2008. 

 

Well I asked what FF game was your first because everyone I know who started playing the series from FF7 has had nothing good to say about FF13. I was annoyed that FF 13 was announced as multiplat in 2008 just like every other FF fan at the time but I got over it quickly and said hey at least the PS3 still gets it and its gonna be awesome. 2 years later and the game wasn't awesome.

Infact everything I liked about the FF series was ripped out of game and replaced with boring. I used to sit up until 4 am playing a new FF game and I'll admit that I've shed some tears to some parts of the series but FF13 did nothing for me. I found it even a struggle to play through an hour of the game. If the game wasn't sacrificed for a 360 version then SE have really fallen off and I won't be getting FFV13 even if it is still exclusive.

But after hearing a games worth of content was cut from the game and the story offered you no sense of freedom until chapter 11. I'm gonna safley say the 360 ruined the series I truely loved all because Microsoft chose to use DVD 9 as there disk of choice and if FFV13 goes multiplat then that game is ruined aswel.

 

Proof?

Or else we can "safley" say whatever we feel like here, don't we?

The proff is in the game mate. Just look at half the FF fans in this thread who are saying the same thing. Most of us grew up playing FF. We know what to expect from the series. What FF13 brought was nothing like the series and if the lead artist of the game comes out and says nearly a full games worth of content was cut from the game including extended dungeons then thats enough proff for me even if he never said it was to cater for the 360 version.



WheelStriker on 18 May 2010

Again? I'm sorry but this multiplatform b.s. is getting ridiculous. Once announced as an exclusive should remain as an exclusive. Fans should be the number one priority, not money.



ShadowSoldier on 18 May 2010

I should have known better....Especially when they went, a world map is silly



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Rainbird on 18 May 2010
andremop said:
Rainbird said:
andremop said:
I would like to see proof that it was gimped... other than some 1 or 2 screenshots showing minor graphical differences... (that happens to every game in development)

Is there proof?

BTW... fuck, there are some elitist PS3 users posters in this thread that really makes me sick.

FF13 on the 360? Because that's easy. Or is it something else?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/tech-analysis-final-fantasy-xiii-article

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-endgame-article

I'm not reading them again so this might not be totally accurate, but from what I remember, the 360 version has lower resolution (which makes for noticably worse looking hair), much lower quality pre-rendered cutscenes (horrible video compression), and some serious frame rate dropping in two main areas later in the game.

You missed my point.


What I want proof is why that the 360 version "ruined" or "gimped" the game. Not that it has some minor graphical differences.

"Readers of the original Face-Off will know that just about the only advantage of the Xbox 360 code came from the frame-rate analyses, whereby performance dips were marginally lower and engine-driven cut-scenes managed to handle higher-poly renditions of multiple characters more effectively. This advantage is actually so small that it's barely perceptible to the human eye, and completely falls by the wayside when you factor in the performance level in two later stages: chapters eight and 11 respectively.

These areas of FFXIII have somewhat unique properties that set them apart from the majority of the game's levels. Much of chapter eight is set within a crowd, pretty much the only time we ever see this sort of thing throughout the entire adventure. PlayStation 3 has some issues in some scenes, but frame-rate plummets throughout the duration of the stage on the Xbox 360 rendition.

[video]

It's an annoyance for sure, but at least the linear aspect of this part of the game is such that once it's over, you'll never need to return to it again. Chapter 11, Gran Pulse, is a completely different kettle of fish. Not only is it an important level of the basic quest, it's also the main area from which the game draws its lastability.

Even after the final stage has been defeated, Gran Pulse remains open, offering masses of additional, optional gameplay. We spent more than 20 hours there on our playthrough of the PS3 version and reckon there's probably 15-25 hours of fun to enjoy in total, depending on how quickly and effectively you figure out the fight strategies.

It's fair to say that we didn't spend anything like 20 hours on the Xbox 360 version, and from this performance analysis video you can see why.

[video]

While the corridor-style elements are pegged at the usual 30FPS, the openworld gameplay found in Gran Pulse is pretty arduous on Xbox 360. There are horribly uneven frame-rates from start to finish with only limited respite."



Masakari on 18 May 2010

It makes no sense for Square to keep Versus XIII PS3 exclusive, so this isn't a surprise.

Gonna be funny to watch the Sony fans go ballistic and full of excuses - before it was "oh 13 is crap, versus is what I have always liked", if this turns out to be true maybe they will realize it's not a 360 thing, it's that FF has been ran to the ground and is just a lifeless corpse.