You don't remember the ball room dance sequence from FFVIII that was rendered in real-time on PS2?

i'm sure remakes of those 3 are coming, but they are probably just gonna do it in order, they have only done the first 4 so far.

Yeah i think your on to something with that; i mean you really think that Wada, Kitase & the FF team said to themselves, lets spend all this time and money on a game that dosent exceed what we did before. i'm not saying they set out with the goal of outselling FF7, but i think it was something they had thought about. and i bet they spent loads on advertising.

i think it was on finalfantasy.net or somthing, i have heard rumours that wada wanted to surpass the sales of FF7, but he never provided a figure, i think after it became unrealistic he brought that figure down to 6 mil. in that release data trailer, Kitase said that FF13 will exceed all expectations and the presenter mentioned how FF13 was possibily the most anticipated game of all time. theres no doubt in my mind they wanted to top FF7.

I agree, with what your saying. because, ofcourse they wanted it to sell as much as 7 (if I'm not mistaken Square-Enix's) best selling game. You don't hope for it to sell less. And when you create something... just being an artist myself... sometimes you think you created something great, and then a lot of people don't like it etc.. so you get excited.

However, I don't know what wada does besides running the company or how much influence he has on the actual game. But Kitase and the FF team, were probably proud of their work so, you get a little hyped up, about what you did, granted... I love FFXIII to death, but I understand why many don't.

And one more thing. FF7 was the spearheaded (with about 5 games I think) of 100 million dollar advertising campaign paid for by sony. And I'm pretty certain that's the biggest ad campaign FF's had. And theirs rumors though I'm not sure whats true is that Microsoft paid for some of the FFXIII commercials.

@ Kenryoku, SE wanted FF to outsell 7 since 7 that's a logical thing to want. But that is not SE as a company expectation. They're not expecting it to outperform what they expect, because  their marketing people get paid to project sales, as with any company, and a responsible company which I'd assume SE is as they have made money for atleast the past 3 years. You don't base company prosperity on unrealistic goals.  Because It's irresponsible to be like  a baseball player thinking I'm going to hit a home run off this pitch, or I fail. That would be the equivalent to SE expecting it to outsell FF7.

Hell for 2 examples from nintendo that would fit your staggering decline definition are 3D mario, and Zelda

3D Mario, Mario 64 11.89m, Mario Sunshine 6.28m, Mario Galaxy 8.62m, did nintendo expect each of them to outsell mario 64?
Zelda  OoT 7.6m, Majora's Mask 3.36, Wind Waker 4.55m, Twilight princess 7.08m, did nintento expect each of them to outsell OoT?
Metroid fits the patern as well, but in terms of sales it's never been close to FF's or 3D mario or Zelda.

So by your description of Final Fantasy being on the decline. That would mean Zelda and 3D mario are as well. And Nintendo and Square Enix have never achieved what they expected in those games since, Mario 64, OoT, and FF7.

Why are you always comparing sales with quality? The only reason why FF8 sold as much as it did was because of FF7's success. It was a quick money maker for Square at that point. The reason why FF9 sold poorly compared to FF8 was because a lot of fans were disappointed with 8 because of it's magic system , junction abilities and because it was over shadowed by the release of FFX and the PS2.

Can you also try to use proper grammer in your posts? I can barely understand what you are writing and it's hurting my eyes.

lol it was because of final fanyasy the spirits within, it was a brilliant film imo opinion but it toatlly failed at cinema's, and they lost a whole shed load of money, the money they was going to make they was going to use for the remakes:):)

You can't really tell if VIII affected IX sales like that. The only reason it sold less than the previous installments is because it was released months after the launch date of PS2. Plus, Final Fantasy X was released a year after IX.

Haven't you heard? The reasons were the towns!

As awesome as a remake would be, I don't really want one. In all honesty, these games all blew me away at the time of their release. On top of that, I already know how they'd all end. The big draw in an RPG isn't the tech, it's the story. Unless they change the story, there isn't much reason for them to pump all of their resources into remaking the games. And, if they do change the story, wouldn't you rather have a new game instead of a snazzier copy of an old game? No matter what they change, we wouldn't be satisfied, anyway.

-the only exception is Resident Evil for the Gamecube.

Yeah i agree, and besides i think FF8 & 9 have aged very well compared to FF7, especially FF8's photorealistic look. but you know i'm sure they will get on this when they make can games of FF13 quality in one year, this crystal tools engine is designed to last the generation. and recently square have been rereleasing and remaking so many FF games.