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Well I guess to some it might be surprising, but from my point of view I've expected them to announce one all along. I still think Sony is kinda infuriated that Nintendo announced the 3DS before they got to announce PSP2. I don't think Sony expected that.

I also agree with Source that both current handhelds will probably get significant pricedrops for the holiday season to continue as support for the developers who will still be putting software on the systems.



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You know they'll want to have 3D now, too. Even though they said that people aren't interested in 3D on handhelds 'according to their data/research', you know they'll do it. Eventually. They'll wait and see what Nintendo does, then, most likely, do the same, imo. I am quite certain PSP2 will have a touchscreen, built-in cameras, and possibly even 2 screens, too. I wonder if they're bold enough to do the latter...
Also, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it launched with some sort of brain training-like game.



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Icyedge said:
stof said:
Icyedge said:
stof said:

I think we can no more comprehend the next DS than we could comprehend the first DS. Remember how we couldn't comprehend the first DS at all? Even when Nintendo announced it and showed it off, they left out the touch screen part, and we were left completely uncomprehending. As for the next PSP... unless they take the Move approach of shamelessly copying the DS... is there really anything they can do that would elicit much excitement?

Your saying that there is still room to innovate and bring new features when it comes to Nintendo handheld but not when it comes to Sony handheld? Thats how it sounds you know. Your also talking like Nintendo invent everything, while im pretty sure dual screen was the only feature not available somewhere else.

"unless they take the Move approach of shamelessly copying the DS" Really?! Its a different tech with a similar concept,  dont you think shamelessly copying is a little exagerated?

Well, the DS was pretty damned innovative, and I think most people are expecting the 3DS to follow that innovative path. Can you really fault someone for expecting more innovation from the Nintendo handheld than the Sony handheld? And I'm not saying Nintendo invented everything, or even anything (I don't think 2 screens is so much an invention as it is a design choice). But there's a huge difference between invention and successful and innovative implementation.

Perhaps I'll be proven quite wrong and the PSP-2 (if it comes) will blow away expectations. But right now I think my expectations seem to be fairly justified.

 

I agree with your last paragraph, its natural to expect something more based on past experiences. But re-read what I underline from one of your earlier post.

I don't think my underline is contradictory with my later statements. The DS brought forward a large number of innovations and I expect the 3DS to build on that. The PSP sought to innovate by increasing the power to match that of consoles and adding in non gaming features. As nice as some of those features are, that doesn't change gaming. In another thread rumours of the PSP2's stats are being kicked around and the biggest innovation in them are touchscreen (DS) and two cameras (DSi) while those are still probably rumours, it's kind of hard to imagine what Sony would do to build on their PSP that doesn't involve following Nintnedo's lead.

Expecting Sony to follow Nintendo's lead is very much based on past expectations.



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Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

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IMO , a price cut for the PSP isn't going to spur sales like it did the PS3, they're in a completely different situation.

It's time to move onto the next PSP handheld, so I hope this is true! analog sticks would rock.



 

Cheebee said:
You know they'll want to have 3D now, too. Even though they said that people aren't interested in 3D on handhelds 'according to their data/research', you know they'll do it. Eventually. They'll wait and see what Nintendo does, then, most likely, do the same, imo. I am quite certain PSP2 will have a touchscreen, built-in cameras, and possibly even 2 screens, too. I wonder if they're bold enough to do the latter...
Also, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it launched with some sort of brain training-like game.

I don't even know why I answer to this post... but... ok...

I'm tired of these comments that Sony is copying or will copy Nintendo, just because the design of the Move controller looks similar to the Wiimote.  So now you assume that Sony gives the psp2 a touchscreen because of the DS, am I right? Nintendo didn't invent touchscreens, you know? It's the same with motion controls. Nintendo isn't as innovative as many people think IMO.

btw: This is NOT an offensive comment, this is only my opinion.



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snfr said:
Cheebee said:
You know they'll want to have 3D now, too. Even though they said that people aren't interested in 3D on handhelds 'according to their data/research', you know they'll do it. Eventually. They'll wait and see what Nintendo does, then, most likely, do the same, imo. I am quite certain PSP2 will have a touchscreen, built-in cameras, and possibly even 2 screens, too. I wonder if they're bold enough to do the latter...
Also, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it launched with some sort of brain training-like game.

I don't even know why I answer to this post... but... ok...

I'm tired of these comments that Sony is copying or will copy Nintendo, just because the design of the Move controller looks similar to the Wiimote.  So now you assume that Sony gives the psp2 a touchscreen because of the DS, am I right? Nintendo didn't invent touchscreens, you know? It's the same with motion controls. Nintendo isn't as innovative as many people think IMO.

btw: This is NOT an offensive comment, this is only my opinion.

Ah, don't take it so seriously, don't be so harsh. I get where you're coming from, don't worry.

I'm not saying Sony's sopying Nintendo all the time, but it's a fact that Nintendo usually tries things first (not that they invent them, they rarely do, and that's not what I've been saying anywhere, anyway), and when these things DO become successful, Sony does them too (albeit in a slightly different way).

Honestly, when Wii was unveiled, Sony (among others) dismissed motion controls as a gimmick, a fad that would soon pass. According to them, consumers wouldn't be interested. Go Google, you should find these sort of quotes easily. Do you *honestly* believe Sony Move would exist in the state it is currently in if Wii hadn't? Or if Wii had been a big fat flop?

As for DS, no, Nintendo didn't invent touchscreens (again, I never said that). But Nintendo were the first to successfully implement touchscreens into gaming, and made it hugely popular. This was way before the iPhone/iPod Touch, too. And yes, I assume PSP2 will have a touchscreen partly due to DS. Had DS not had a touchscreen, or if it would've been a major disappointment/flop, I doubt Sony would implement one in PSP2.

Again, I respect your opinion, but I wasn't saying Sony was blatantly copying Nintendo, NOR that Nintendo were the inventors of most of their products' features. But, it's a fact that Nintendo is by far the most innovative company out of the current 3 videogame giants, and that they do usually implement unique features in successful ways and make them popular.



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Nice smack in the face for all the PSP Go consumers. For this reason I doubt its true !



Cheebee said:
snfr said:
Cheebee said:
You know they'll want to have 3D now, too. Even though they said that people aren't interested in 3D on handhelds 'according to their data/research', you know they'll do it. Eventually. They'll wait and see what Nintendo does, then, most likely, do the same, imo. I am quite certain PSP2 will have a touchscreen, built-in cameras, and possibly even 2 screens, too. I wonder if they're bold enough to do the latter...
Also, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it launched with some sort of brain training-like game.

I don't even know why I answer to this post... but... ok...

I'm tired of these comments that Sony is copying or will copy Nintendo, just because the design of the Move controller looks similar to the Wiimote.  So now you assume that Sony gives the psp2 a touchscreen because of the DS, am I right? Nintendo didn't invent touchscreens, you know? It's the same with motion controls. Nintendo isn't as innovative as many people think IMO.

btw: This is NOT an offensive comment, this is only my opinion.

Ah, don't take it so seriously, don't be so harsh. I get where you're coming from, don't worry.

I'm not saying Sony's sopying Nintendo all the time, but it's a fact that Nintendo usually tries things first (not that they invent them, they rarely do, and that's not what I've been saying anywhere, anyway), and when these things DO become successful, Sony does them too (albeit in a slightly different way).

Honestly, when Wii was unveiled, Sony (among others) dismissed motion controls as a gimmick, a fad that would soon pass. According to them, consumers wouldn't be interested. Go Google, you should find these sort of quotes easily. Do you *honestly* believe Sony Move would exist in the state it is currently in if Wii hadn't? Or if Wii had been a big fat flop?

As for DS, no, Nintendo didn't invent touchscreens (again, I never said that). But Nintendo were the first to successfully implement touchscreens into gaming, and made it hugely popular. This was way before the iPhone/iPod Touch, too. And yes, I assume PSP2 will have a touchscreen partly due to DS. Had DS not had a touchscreen, or if it would've been a major disappointment/flop, I doubt Sony would implement one in PSP2.

Again, I respect your opinion, but I wasn't saying Sony was blatantly copying Nintendo, NOR that Nintendo were the inventors of most of their products' features. But, it's a fact that Nintendo is by far the most innovative company out of the current 3 videogame giants, and that they do usually implement unique features in successful ways and make them popular.

Well, I definitly agree with you on Nintendo being the most innovative out of the 3 videogame giants. It's just that some people (not you) often act like Sony (and Microsoft) are only copying things Nintendo does first, and this is simply not true. And you're right... if the Wii and the DS weren't so successful we would not see motion controls on PS3 and 360.

By the way... it would also be nice to know if the Nintendo Wii now had motion controls if EyeToy on PS2 had been a complete fail.

 

Sorry that my post probably sounded harsh, I didn't mean it like that. And no... I'm not completly Sony biased (if you meant that with: "I get where you're coming from.").

So... sorry for assuming that you have a big bias against Sony.



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snfr said:

Well, I definitly agree with you on Nintendo being the most innovative out of the 3 videogame giants. It's just that some people (not you) often act like Sony (and Microsoft) are only copying things Nintendo does first, and this is simply not true. And you're right... if the Wii and the DS weren't so successful we would not see motion controls on PS3 and 360.

By the way... it would also be nice to know if the Nintendo Wii now had motion controls if EyeToy on PS2 had been a complete fail.

 

Sorry that my post probably sounded harsh, I didn't mean it like that. And no... I'm not completly Sony biased (if you meant that with: "I get where you're coming from.").

So... sorry for assuming that you have a big bias against Sony.

Ah that's fine. I like Nintendo, yes, but I'm not some blind obsessed fanboy who can only see the good parts of a company and only the bad bits of its competitors. I respect Sony as a company, and they've definitely brought good things to the industry.

And don't worry, I wasn't thinking you were some Sony troll or anything, haha. I just wanted to point out my thoughts on the matter. Glad we agree on some things!

As for the Eyetoy thing, hum, who knows, with all the weird things that must be going on at Nintendo R&D I doubt we'll ever find out... who knows how their minds work.



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would be nice, but i expect more changes than just graphics



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